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Is atheism a belief?

Is atheism a belief?


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anubhuti

New Member
Obviously I can not believe in something I cannot imagine.

If you can not believe in something that you cannot imagine, how can you not believe in something that doesn't exist? Lack of belief in gods is due to lack of belief in their existence. you know gods and you know that gods don't exist, so you don't have to believe in gods.(according to atheist). You "believe" that gods don't exist.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
can you "not believe" in something that you cannot imagine/ that doesn't exist?
It would be hard to not not believe - i.e to believe - in something that you can't imagine.

You can't conceive of something as true if you can't conceive of it at all.
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
If you can not believe in something that you cannot imagine, how can you not believe in something that doesn't exist? Lack of belief in gods is due to lack of belief in their existence. you know gods and you know that gods don't exist
I don't know gods don't exist. Never said I did. You are now misrepresenting me.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
can you "not believe" in something that you cannot imagine/ that doesn't exist?

Please try to rewrite.
A double negative is bad enough,you used three.
Nobody but you could say for sure what you mean.

Oh, and, could you say if you are capable
of understanding that your god is a myth.
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
I am sorry. "You" refers to any one with atheist beliefs.
I think you should just start with the basics. Here's a nice chart.

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night912

Well-Known Member
If you can not believe in something that you cannot imagine, how can you not believe in something that doesn't exist? Lack of belief in gods is due to lack of belief in their existence. you know gods and you know that gods don't exist, so you don't have to believe in gods.(according to atheist). You "believe" that gods don't exist.
With all the "negatives" your using, it's hard to fully grasp what you're trying to say. With that being said, I gathered that you are confusing two things. Believe that god exist (as in believing that there is a god), with believe in a god (as in worshiping a god). Atheism and theism alone simply deals with the former not the latter.

One can believe that a god exist but doesn't have to believe in a god or worship a god.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
That's hardly "the basics." Outside of a few people on the internet, you'll hardly ever find anyone who uses the word "Gnostic" this way.


Yup, I'm 100% (and some) certain no god exists and never have i used the term 'gnostic atheist' to describe myself
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
Could be, am also be a chordata and never call myself or anyone else one
Why did you say "Yup, I'm 100% (and some) certain no god exists and never have i used the term 'gnostic atheist' to describe myself"? Was there a point you wanted to make or was it just an observation or what?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Why did you say "Yup, I'm 100% (and some) certain no god exists and never have i used the term 'gnostic atheist' to describe myself"? Was there a point you wanted to make or was it just an observation or what?

The point was to respond to @9-10ths_Penguin s post using "my experience"
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
That’s clear enough. Of course some atheists are Hindu, Buddhist and Christian. Particularly within Hinduism and Buddhism atheism is a legitimate positive within these ‘faiths’. Although its not as accepted in Christianity, its become increasingly recognised that many Christians are atheists too.

Please explain how one can be a Christian and be an atheist at the same time. I am intrigued.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Please explain how one can be a Christian and be an atheist at the same time. I am intrigued.

Its very easy. One could believe there was an historical Jesus but the narrative in the New Testament is mostly theological. The resurrection, never happened literally but instead was the inspiration of the Gospel writers or early Christians who intended symbolic meaning. There was no literal virgin birth, so instead we have a theological narrative that teaches us about purity. Even the narrative about the God of Abraham is theological and is simply there to convey deeper spiritual truths that has little to do with a literal or real God at all. Make sense?
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Its very easy. One could believe there was an historical Jesus but the narrative in the New Testament is mostly theological. The resurrection, never happened literally but instead was the inspiration of the Gospel writers or early Christians who intended symbolic meaning. There was no literal virgin birth, so instead we have a theological narrative that teaches us about purity. Even the narrative about the God of Abraham is theological and is simply there to convey deeper spiritual truths that has little to do with a literal or real God at all. Make sense?

Kinda. It seems to be outside of the normative definition of the word christian, tho. What makes the truths "spiritual"?
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Kinda. It seems to be outside of the normative definition of the word christian, tho. What makes the truths "spiritual"?

Of course conservative Christians would say they are not Christians at all while more liberal Christians may argue that if one chooses to belief in Christ and call themselves a Christian, that is sufficient.

Spiritual is just another nebulous word that could mean many things....a little like atheist!
 
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