Is atheism a threat to humanity?

[ratiocinator]

You won't need to hold your breath, because by then you will have a new one (breath),
and a new "body" to go with it.
And even another piece of meat between your ears.

SAME "spirit" though...….and I QUARANTEE "it" (YOU) will remember.

Since it's quite clear that you're prepared to talk nonsense about science, and you are making assertions without evidence or reasoning, why on earth should I take you seriously?

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Why wait till scientists discover it if you know already?
Make your knowledge public and collect your nobel prize. What are you waiting for?




Yes yes, any day now...



Not exactly.

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"DEAD" men......tell "tales" .

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

lol, please stop it ....lol

Why? Aren't you comfortable in the presence of logic and reason?

and if you only knew that "words" are the most powerful thing in this universe...

Another one of those poetic statements that has no real objective value regarding existance.

or are we just wasting out time here......me and you …..lol

I'm definatly wasting time talking to you.
That's okay. I have time to waste while waiting for my sql scripts to finish.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

How is that an example of a mind that exists absent a brain?

Every night you ( your consciousness, ) leaves your physical body, and goes out to "play".

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Your reason doesn't decide whether you are in a trickster universe or not. That is a limit of reason.
You could be in a trickster universe and think the same.

The point is that it is a limit for knowledge. For all you and I know only of us could be real in the following sense: Imagine a Boltzmann Brain universe where one of us is on a computer running and the other is a part of the simulation run by the computer. The rest of the universe, as it appears, is a simulation on the computer.

Now consider this:
I see no reason to suppose that I am in a trickster universe, and therefore I will ignore the idea.
I see no reason to suppose that there is no creator God, and therefore I will ignore the idea.
In both cases "I see no reason", will not determine what the really real reality is and there is no functionally difference between the cases of "I see no reason".

I am a skeptic and I try to understand the limits of reason, logic and what not.
I look for the limits of "I see no reason to suppose that I am in a trickster universe, and therefore I will ignore the idea." The limit is that it will not decide what universe you are in.
I know that as a skeptic and I know that I believe in God will not decide what kind of universe I live in.

So do you think, how you think, will decide what kind of universe you live in?

Apparently that is the limit of epistemology and if you Know differently, I like to know how?

Well, then, why not assume that your "trickster universe" is actually inside another trickster universe, and that one is inside yet another, and....Russian dolls to infinity, if you'd like.

The question that remains is this: what is the reason for anyone to imagine that our universe is within a trickster universe running a simulation? That is a though that could not even be had until we knew something about running simulations in the first place, so it is an entirely, 100% human construct -- a bit of slightly amusing imagination for which, while one can't say it isn't so, one can also give no reason to suppose that it might be.

Kick in Occam's Razor, and do the right thing.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It's amazing too, really,
that your cat is more in tune with it's "cosmic purpose" than it's owner.
and that doesn't speak very well of you.

What are you babbling about?

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Why? Aren't you comfortable in the presence of logic and reason?



Another one of those poetic statements that has no real objective value regarding existance.



I'm definatly wasting time talking to you.
That's okay. I have time to waste while waiting for my sql scripts to finish.

Yes, you are wasting your time......your LIFE TIME.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You won't need to hold your breath, because by then you will have a new one (breath),
and a new "body" to go with it.
And even another piece of meat between your ears.

SAME "spirit" though...….and I QUARANTEE "it" (YOU) will remember.

Do you have something more then just bare assertions?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Every night you ( your consciousness, ) leaves your physical body, and goes out to "play".

You been tracking it? You got pictures?

 

[QuestioningMind]

That's correct, every atom that makes up everything that you can see right now,
including the meat sack you are in...….will be history as far as what those ATOMS OF DUST form today.

So, what does that tell you ? ( or should tell you )

It tells me that you're incapable of just using the word ATOMS. You use the words ATOMS OF DUST to try and bolster your moronic claim that everything will eventually turn to DUST. It tells me AGAIN that you could use a great deal of education as far as basic science goes.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Do you have something more then just bare assertions?

Only if you can show me more than naked ignorance .

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Exhibit A : Every night when you go to sleep

Uhh. My brain is still there when I sleep.

Are you scooping yours out first or....?

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

It tells me that you're incapable of just using the word ATOMS. You use the words ATOMS OF DUST to try and bolster your moronic claim that everything will eventually turn to DUST. It tells me AGAIN that you could use a great deal of education as far as basic science goes.

You're right......so tell me, why are you ROTTING away right this very second then ?

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Uhh. My brain is still there when I sleep.

Are you scooping yours out first or....?

science calls it "dreaming",
because that's all they can come up with.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

You been tracking it? You got pictures?

Yeah, I got mine....
and you got yours......don't you ?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Only if you can show me more than naked ignorance .

That makes no sense as a reply.

I repeat: do you have something more then bare assertions?
Like for example some objective evidence in support of those assertions?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You're right......so tell me, why are you ROTTING away right this very second then ?

He isn't.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

science calls it "dreaming",
because that's all they can come up with.

What are you trying to argue for?

Are you saying the brain disappears when you dream? I'm pretty sure that has been soundly ruled out as a possibility at this point.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

That makes no sense as a reply.

I repeat: do you have something more then bare assertions?
Like for example some objective evidence in support of those assertions?

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me WHY they are ROTTING away right now.

Was that a FART, I just heard......ppppppuuuuuuu!!!!!
there must be something ROTTEN going on inside you.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

science calls it "dreaming",
because that's all they can come up with.

Dreams occur in the brain.


What happens when we dream?

Dreams can be monitored by brain activity.

If you are correct, and this "spirit" (whatever it is - since you still haven't properly defined or demonstrated it) leaves the body during sleep, then the brain shouldn't show any activity relating to dreaming.

Conversely, if dreaming happens in the brain, then there should be brain activity.

And there is brain activity, off course.
We actually know quite a few things about it in remarkable detail.


But hey, don't let actual facts and objective evidence get in the way of your fantastical faith based religious claims....