Is atheism a threat to humanity?

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Don't tell him about all the bacteria that lives in our bodies.

OMG! He'd never get over the shock of finding out that 57% of all the cells in his body don't belong to him at all, but to other critters that make up his microbiome.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I made no such assumption.

I merely said I see no reason to suppose that I am in a trickster universe, and therefore I will ignore the idea.

Now, if you think that there is some reason to suppose that you DO live in a trickster universe, why don't you tell us what that reason is?

Your reason doesn't decide whether you are in a trickster universe or not. That is a limit of reason.
You could be in a trickster universe and think the same.

The point is that it is a limit for knowledge. For all you and I know only of us could be real in the following sense: Imagine a Boltzmann Brain universe where one of us is on a computer running and the other is a part of the simulation run by the computer. The rest of the universe, as it appears, is a simulation on the computer.

Now consider this:
I see no reason to suppose that I am in a trickster universe, and therefore I will ignore the idea.
I see no reason to suppose that there is no creator God, and therefore I will ignore the idea.
In both cases "I see no reason", will not determine what the really real reality is and there is no functionally difference between the cases of "I see no reason".

I am a skeptic and I try to understand the limits of reason, logic and what not.
I look for the limits of "I see no reason to suppose that I am in a trickster universe, and therefore I will ignore the idea." The limit is that it will not decide what universe you are in.
I know that as a skeptic and I know that I believe in God will not decide what kind of universe I live in.

So do you think, how you think, will decide what kind of universe you live in?

Apparently that is the limit of epistemology and if you Know differently, I like to know how?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Yes, of course...
and don't forget that "deodorant" ( TO MASK THE ODOR ).

What the heck are you babbling about...........

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

And the Bible does not care, what you care about it .

You are descending into playground "arguments" now

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I KNOW there is a purpose..

How do you know?

so now tell why there is none ?

You're the one making the assertion.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

We will determine it by your next move. If you chose to do anything whatsoever going forward, you will prove yourself to be a liar.
Because, if you truly believed there is no purpose for your existence, then you would cease to live.

So now, get busy living, or get busy dying.

There not being any cosmic purpose to human existance, by no means has to affect the will to live.

My cat doesn't care about cosmic purposes for instance, yet it most definatly has a survival instinct and it will not just lay down and die.

So once again, your juvenile black and white thinking amounts to obvious nonsense.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

You are descending into playground "arguments" now

lol.....then I guess you don't know that "words" are MORE REAL, than you will ever be.
They were here long before you, and will be here long after you are gone.

That's why they don't care what you think about them.

 

[SkepticThinker]

lol.....then I guess you don't know that "words" are MORE REAL, than you will ever be.
They were here long before you, and will be here long after you are gone.

That's why they don't care what you think about them.

Huh? Are you saying that poster isn't real because he's not immortal?

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

I can take your brain out of your skull,
I can see it,
I can touch it,
I can smell it ( pppp uuu ! )
I can taste it if I want ( yuk ! )

But your MIND, I can never touch ( except with WORDS )
now, go and learn the difference

Show me a single example of a mind without a brain and we can have a discussion about that. Until then you are engaging in wishful thinking of a sort that is not only not supported by any evidence, it in fact contradicts all of the evidence we do have.(the mind is affected by brain states;drugs, damage, physical stimuli, etc)

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Rubbish.

Your body is made up of cells, which are made up of various things, like proteins and assorted other goodies, which are made up chemicals, which are made up of atoms. 99% of you is made up of six elements: oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. Only about 0.85% is composed of another five elements: potassium, sulfur, sodium, chlorine, and magnesium. All 11 are necessary for life. You will please not that all of these are ELEMENTS, not dust (though dust, too, is made up elements).

Try to learn a little something before making pronouncements on what you don't understand in the least.

"dust" is a metaphor, for the smallest particle of matter......whatever that smallest particle may be,
and scientist, like atheist, haven't a clue as to what that is.

Here, let me help you,
So far science has discovered down to the "quark" , if I'm not mistaken,
but they will be in for quite a shock here soon when they discover what lies "beneath" that
can you say "ether" …..and I'm not talking about the anesthesia .

But that's just the beginning, because that discovery will lead to others,
and they will finally understand what the word "spirit" means, in terms of scientific analysis.

Yes, boys and girls, in case you haven't noticed, we (humanity) just turned a page,
and are now heading into the Aquarian Age......when the s++t really hits the fan....

then remember...…..you heard it here first.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Show me a single example of a mind without a brain and we can have a discussion about that. Until then you are engaging in wishful thinking of a sort that is not only not supported by any evidence, it in fact contradicts all of the evidence we do have.(the mind is affected by brain states;drugs, damage, physical stimuli, etc)

Exhibit A : Every night when you go to sleep

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

lol.....then I guess you don't know that "words" are MORE REAL, than you will ever be.

They were here long before you, and will be here long after you are gone.​

Seeing as how words are a human creation, it is quite absurd to claim that words existed before humans.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Huh? Are you saying that poster isn't real because he's not immortal?

No, I'm saying the poster IS immortal ( even though they don't know it yet ),
but I'm saying the "Word" is eternal ( no beginning and no end ),
and comes before us.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Seeing as how words are a human creation, it is quite absurd to claim that words existed before humans.

lol, please stop it ....lol

and if you only knew that "words" are the most powerful thing in this universe...
or are we just wasting out time here......me and you …..lol

 

[ratiocinator]

"dust" is a metaphor, for the smallest particle of matter......whatever that smallest particle may be,
and scientist, like atheist, haven't a clue as to what that is.

Not really a thing - "matter" not being a well defined term, scientifically speaking. Also rather odd how long it took you to decide "dust" was only metaphorical.

but they will be in for quite a shock here soon when they discover what lies "beneath" that
can you say "ether" …..and I'm not talking about the anesthesia .

The long since abandoned idea of the lumifarious eather, you mean?

But that's just the beginning, because that discovery will lead to others,
and they will finally understand what the word "spirit" means, in terms of scientific analysis.

Yes, boys and girls, in case you haven't noticed, we (humanity) just turned a page,
and are now heading into the Aquarian Age......when the s++t really hits the fan....

Are you for real?

then remember...…..you heard it here first.

No holding my breath....

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

There not being any cosmic purpose to human existance, by no means has to affect the will to live.

My cat doesn't care about cosmic purposes for instance, yet it most definatly has a survival instinct and it will not just lay down and die.

So once again, your juvenile black and white thinking amounts to obvious nonsense.

It's amazing too, really,
that your cat is more in tune with it's "cosmic purpose" than it's owner.
and that doesn't speak very well of you.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Not really a thing - "matter" not being a well defined term, scientifically speaking. Also rather odd how long it took you to decide "dust" was only metaphorical.



The long since abandoned idea of the lumifarious eather, you mean?



Are you for real?



No holding my breath....

You won't need to hold your breath, because by then you will have a new one (breath),
and a new "body" to go with it.
And even another piece of meat between your ears.

SAME "spirit" though...….and I QUARANTEE "it" (YOU) will remember.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

"dust" is a metaphor, for the smallest particle of matter......whatever that smallest particle may be,
and scientist, like atheist, haven't a clue as to what that is.

Here, let me help you,
So far science has discovered down to the "quark" , if I'm not mistaken,
but they will be in for quite a shock here soon when they discover what lies "beneath" that
can you say "ether" …..and I'm not talking about the anesthesia .

But that's just the beginning, because that discovery will lead to others,
and they will finally understand what the word "spirit" means, in terms of scientific analysis.

Why wait till scientists discover it if you know already?
Make your knowledge public and collect your nobel prize. What are you waiting for?

Yes, boys and girls, in case you haven't noticed, we (humanity) just turned a page,
and are now heading into the Aquarian Age......when the s++t really hits the fan....

Yes yes, any day now...

then remember...…..you heard it here first.

Not exactly.

 

[WhyIsThatSo]

Don't tell him about all the bacteria that lives in our bodies.

WHAT ?, you mean this body is FULL of "bacteria" ?
And all sorts of microscopic bugs, and other critters and who knows what else,
just munchin away, all the time ?

Tell em bout it Turtle ..

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Exhibit A : Every night when you go to sleep

How is that an example of a mind that exists absent a brain?