Shushersbedamned
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That especially is an emotional matter!Your opinion is noted and considered that of someone without the experience to evaluate the situation. Fyi, I don't get emotional about not collecting stamps either.
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That especially is an emotional matter!Your opinion is noted and considered that of someone without the experience to evaluate the situation. Fyi, I don't get emotional about not collecting stamps either.
That especially is an emotional matter!
How so? What factors would thise be?No atheism is based on emotional factors.
Atheism is definitely NOT a science. I cannot actually imagine any atheism professing it was such. If anything, it is more of an art form. (We try to come up with better answers than the pablum given to us by theists.)
Atheism is a conclusion to one question.
Science is a method of observation and experimentation to gather data and make conclusions about it.
An atheist may say science contributes to their atheism when positive claims of theistic religions don't match scientific conclusions (scriptural literalism, global flood, evolution denial) but really that tends to be a pretty narrow group of theists which it impacts (a small section of Abrahamics) and has little to do with theism in general. Since most theists don't make a science contradictory claims about their theism I would say science has very little to do with atheism.
I believe it's poor reasoning to start with a conclusion and try to find reasons that fit that conclusion. So far, that has been my observation of direct evidence claims for god(s)I believe then that the reasoning is not proper since the conclusion is invalid.
I believe this is a concept that science is like God and is always right but the truth is that what passes for science often is in error or is inconclusive..
My deepest aplogies @MuffledI believe that all comes out of your imagination and the ability to ignore the validity of our answers.
If Atheism is not a belief/faith, does it make it science?
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So, does one mean that Atheism and its people have got nothing to do with science? Right, please?That's like asking if you are not right-handed, does that make you a turtle? Just because two words can be stringed togetherin a sentence does not mean that the sentence is meaningful.
So, does one mean that Atheism and its people have got nothing to do with science? Right, please?
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Correct.So, does one mean that Atheism and its people have got nothing to do with science? Right, please?
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If Atheism is not a belief/faith, does it make it science?
If Atheism is not a belief/faith, does it make it science?
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Isn’t Atheism a world view without reasons and arguments?
Atheism people have a belief "God does not exist "
With new observations comes a new belief
It is very natural to believe
Origin of the universe is a question for science. For example, Lawrence Krauss's book "A Universe from Nothing" makes a physics claim that no God is needed. So that is a scientific claim and theory that no God is needed (and that God was invented by beings that came to exist in the universe). On the other hand the claim that Intelligence Created the Universe -- The God Theory -- could also be a scientific fact and factually true. So arguably these are two competing scientific theories regarding origin of the universe: atheism and theism.Atheism is definitely NOT a science. I cannot actually imagine any atheism professing it was such. If anything, it is more of an art form. (We try to come up with better answers than the pablum given to us by theists.)
"No God is needed" is not a theory. It's an observation.Origin of the universe is a question for science. For example, Lawrence Krauss's book "A Universe from Nothing" makes a physics claim that no God is needed. So that is a scientific claim and theory that no God is needed (and that God was invented by beings that came to exist in the universe). On the other hand the claim that Intelligence Created the Universe -- The God Theory -- could also be a scientific fact and factually true. So arguably these are two competing scientific theories regarding origin of the universe: atheism and theism.
It cannot be an observation unless you have or can "observe" it. We cannot "observe" that "No God is needed", we can make a hypothesis or theory that universe does not need a God to come into existence."No God is needed" is not a theory. It's an observation.
"No God is needed"It cannot be an observation unless you have or can "observe" it. We cannot "observe" that "No God is needed", we can make a hypothesis or theory that universe does not need a God to come into existence.
The example such as the "A Universe from Nothing" book I mentioned saying "No God is needed" is a physics theory about origin of universe.
The theist claim is that the existence of the universe needs an explanation with God being a possible explanation. That is The God Theory and it is a science theory since it provides an explanation for the cause and existence of the observed universe. Atheists feel a need to counter that with a science theory that suggests a "Universe from Nothing" and this is not "just an uttering of the cuff" because science writers are attempting rational explanations why that "No God is needed" alternative is more likely than The God Theory."No God is needed"
It is not an observation of science, just an uttering off the cuff. Right,please?
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"The God Theory" is not a scientific theory. What reasonable test could possibly refute it? Historically " God did it" has failed as an explanation.The theist claim is that the existence of the universe needs an explanation with God being a possible explanation. That is The God Theory and it is a science theory since it provides an explanation for the cause and existence of the observed universe. Atheists feel a need to counter that with a science theory that suggests a "Universe from Nothing" and this is not "just an uttering of the cuff" because science writers are attempting rational explanations why that "No God is needed" alternative is more likely than The God Theory.