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Is Atheism science?

Please elaborate. What would "being okay" with it mean?

Theism proper is all right. Using it to empower denial, obscurantism and ignorance is not.

Repacing "theory" in original with "hypothesis" we get:
Two possible tests that would weaken (or refute) "The God Hypothesis" would be if one could a universe or create life. The latter could be done tomorrow in the lab!
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Repacing "theory" in original with "hypothesis" we get:
Two possible tests that would weaken (or refute) "The God Hypothesis" would be if one could a universe or create life. The latter could be done tomorrow in the lab!
Your error in regards to abiogenesis was already explained to you. What was the other supposed test?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Would you be okay with "God Hypothesis"?
Even a hypothesis is based on observations. This God speculation is based only on an inability to think of any other explanation, or understand the more complex explanations of those who've actually examined the issue.
So you're saying that all people are theists; that those who don't believe in any God, or who have never been exposed to any God concept, still believe in God?
How does that work?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Then it is a belief. How can a non belief exist when it is defined by belief, without being a belief?
How can the concept of empty exist, when it's defined by contents? How can you not believe in Huitzilopochtli, when your non belief is defined by belief?
 
Even a hypothesis is based on observations. This God speculation is based only on an inability to think of any other explanation, or understand the more complex explanations of those who've actually examined the issue.
How does that work?
The observation is the universe and hypothesis is that it was created by intelligence. Having read other possible explanations does not rule out the God hypothesis and make its chances of being true Zero.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
But it does leave it pure, unsupported speculation, with many arguments against it.
 

Willamena

Just me
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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
How can the concept of empty exist, when it's defined by contents? How can you not believe in Huitzilopochtli, when your non belief is defined by belief?
Wrong..............
You are equating atheism, to something that isn't defined, an unknown. Atheism is defined. In fact, the word atheism, existed before the word theism.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Wrong..............
You are equating atheism, to something that isn't defined, an unknown. Atheism is defined. In fact, the word atheism, existed before the word theism.


If there was no belief in gods we would all be atheists. The term would simply not be defined. The lack of definition of something does not mean that it does not exist.

I am betting that you are an apixyist. Not believing in pixies does not mean that they exist.
 
How would one do that?

if you can't answer you have admitted that your concept is not a hypothesis.

Do it the same way this universe came to be ... and create a new universe. Or create life from non-life.

Don't ask me how ... I don't know ... and then there is the God hypothesis saying can't be done unless God does it...
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Atheism is a belief, not a science. We can get into semantic discussions of whether or not atheists have "faith" but of course that depends on how one defines "faith" so I think the discussion isn't very worthwhile.
No, it is not a belief. It is the lack of one particular belief that others seem to have for reasons that are lacking for atheists.

I know that I cannot breathe unaided in the emptiness of space -- that is not a belief. Rather, someone who supposed they could do so would have a belief, but it would be a belief that if acted upon, would have tragic results, because it is incorrect.

Stamp collecting is a hobby. Not collecting stamps is not some other sort of hobby. Believing in God is a belief. Not believing in God is not some other sort of belief, in exactly the same way.
 
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