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Is Athiesm a Religion?

outhouse

Atheistically
:D By "current state of education and knowledge," you mean the previous states were stupid?

No.

Concepts evolve.

20,000 years ago homo sapiens had a different idea of the definition of theism.


Today we know man and only man has defined deities.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
To call a newborn an atheist is little more than worthless wordplay. Whether or not one can formulate a sterile definition of 'atheism' to support it is of no import.

I suppose you are right. Atheist in this case would mean a newborn has no position with regard to God.

The question would be whether a baby is born a skeptic?

A baby is neither born a believer nor a skeptic.

Some want to call that atheism.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
. Atheist in this case would mean a newborn has no position with regard to God.

The question would be whether a baby is born a skeptic?

A baby is neither born a believer nor a skeptic.

Some want to call that atheism.

That is a rather skewed view, due to his religious bias.


It is one or the other.

Is a baby a theist or not?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I suppose you are right. Atheist in this case would mean a newborn has no position with regard to God.

Indeed. Which by my understand means that, much like an inanimate object, it is also an atheist.


The question would be whether a baby is born a skeptic?

No. But he does not have to be in order to be an atheist. In fact, skepticism isn't even necessary for grown-ups to be atheists, although there is a significant mathematical correlation.

A baby is neither born a believer nor a skeptic.

Some want to call that atheism.

I do.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
I am starting to believe that Athiesm starting to be like a religion. They already have their own scholars, proselytization, and prophets(hawkins)
Yes, it can that or other forms. Atheism is a theistic statement though, not necessarily indicative of ones claimed religious adherence, so this isn't a black & white issue.:)
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
On that specific matter of theism, you mean?

Truth is, I do indeed. Common as theism is, I can't in good faith deny that I don't find it healthy.

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I don't know. I guess my morality dictates being a little less judgmental about people who have beliefs which differ from mine.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The question would be whether a baby is born a skeptic?
A baby is neither born a believer nor a skeptic.
It's possible that some are born with a genetic predisposition towards belief or skepticism. Upon being born, they don't (IMO) have opinions on religious matters, but time will tell if this underlying nature causes them to be believers or heathens.

I've always been an atheist, so I say I was born that way. But other people might be better described as being born a blank slate.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
That, it seems, we just won't agree on. Atheism is inherent far as I can tell, until and unless specifically countered.

Neither Theism or Atheism is inherent the concepts are to advanced for children to conceive. As one begins to learn one can understand the concept of theism and atheism one can then decide which group they wish to support. If you never learn about either you won't be either and indeed there are many non-religious that refuse the Atheism term. By adopting the term atheist, supporting it, defending it and proselytizing about it as each one of you in this thread are doing, you are practicing something organized. Perhaps it just the RF atheist club.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Neither Theism or Atheism is inherent the concepts are to advanced for children to conceive. As one begins to learn one can understand the concept of theism and atheism one can then decide which group they wish to support. If you never learn about either you won't be either and indeed there are many non-religious that refuse the Atheism term. By adopting the term atheist, supporting it, defending it and proselytizing about it as each one of you in this thread are doing, you are practicing something organized. Perhaps it just the RF atheist club.

Only if you ignore the definition of implicit atheism.

Maybe you don't know or understand the definition
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
Neither Theism or Atheism is inherent the concepts are to advanced for children to conceive. As one begins to learn one can understand the concept of theism and atheism one can then decide which group they wish to support.
Every child is an atheist (not a theist). As one begins to learn one can understand the concept of theism and atheism one can then decide whether to become a theist or stay an atheist.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
The evidence is called parental love. Then perverted by theist.

AGAIN a man born on a island grows up with no parents and learns or imagines no religion, was an atheist all his life.


You are factually an atheist until you learn religion.
I stated earlier that one who is a theist may or may not have a religion. Theists means that we "simply believe in God". Being religious and being a theist sometimes go together but sometimes they don't. A person can believe in God and yet have no religion while a person who does not believe in God can follow a religion. Buddhism, Taosim, and other religions, as far as I know, don't need a Deity to follow.
 
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