Is beastiality immoral?

[The Sum of Awe]

Anthropomorphizing.

Are you saying you can only rape humans?

 

[Yerda]

You guys have to quit comparing apples with oranges.

Oranges are better. End of.

Eating an animal is not the same as frakking an animal.

Well, it's been a while since I've eaten one and I've never frakked one, but I'm quite confident you're right there.

Point is that your disgust is not among the valid reasons for determining that an act is immoral.

I understand that you find it yucky. I can't even let a dog lick my hand without feeling queasy. I get it. Infact, people letting their pets lick their faces annoys me. They lick their genitals, and eat faeces, man don't let it's tongue touch your lips...that's how diseases get spread. Probably. Still...I wouldn't declare them criminally insane...

 

[The Sum of Awe]

You don't see too many lions trying to frak a gazelle. When a lion kills and eats a gazelle it's natural but when the lion fraks the gazelle...well that's abnormal.

Same with people.

And polar bears eat their kids, therefore we should too.

 

[Yerda]

You've got a computer in front of you. Just go to some zoo (zoophilia) sites. Check out the forums, videos, discussion groups and studies.

I'd be worried that it's the women who are not freely consenting in those circumstances.

 

[Father Heathen]

The point is, shame and degradation are human things, to animals sex is just one more odd thing humans do with them.
And who said anything about "forcible restraint" or "violent penetration?"

Who said anything about shame and degradation?

 

[Father Heathen]

You've got a computer in front of you. Just go to some zoo (zoophilia) sites. Check out the forums, videos, discussion groups and studies.

Because porn sites are the most reliable and accurate sources of data and information on sexuality and sexual practices.

 

[Kerr]

Are you really serious? How is inflicting pain, suffering and harm in the same category as sex?
I'll ask you: If a man stabbed a woman during sex, would it be wrong? Why? (hint: it's not the sex )

You misunderstood my post . Was responding to this.

Nor they can give informed consent to being killed for gastronomical pleasure o.o

Wanted to understand how far that line of thought went, since it can be used to justify what I mentioned. Did not mean to imply that sex and inflicting pain, suffering and harm falls in the same category.

 

[nnmartin]

Then I assume you're also against horse racing, dog sledding, pig breeding "prisons," and caging animals in zoos.

not that this was addressed to me but I'll answer it anyway.

I enjoy horse-racing and usually have a bet each day if possible.

I eat meat and think that is acceptable.

However, bestiality is most definitely wrong.


they are different issues and it is pointless linking them together.

 

[McBell]

not that this was addressed to me but I'll answer it anyway.

I enjoy horse-racing and usually have a bet each day if possible.

I eat meat and think that is acceptable.

However, bestiality is most definitely wrong.


they are different issues and it is pointless linking them together.

 

[nnmartin]

why would a person want to have sex with an animal instead of a human?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

We are chimpanzees. We kill and eat it the gazelle, we don't frak it. It's in our nature to kill and eat our prey not to frak it, that's just the way things are.

 

[McBell]

We are chimpanzees. We kill and eat it the gazelle, we don't frak it. It's in our nature to kill and eat our prey not to frak it, that's just the way things are.

Oh my.
I had forgotten how difficult this thread must be for you.
The threat to your world view and all.

 

[Kerr]

why would a person want to have sex with an animal instead of a human?

Does it matter? It is wrong no matter the reason.

 

[Father Heathen]

I enjoy horse-racing and usually have a bet each day if possible.

Now hold on there, son. Isn't gambling supposed to be immoral?

 

[nnmartin]

why should gambling be immoral?

I'm not talking about big bucks or obsessive behaviour, but just the occasional small bet on a horse race.

what's wrong with that?

 

[Father Heathen]

why should gambling be immoral?

Exactly. Why should any victimless "offense" be considered "immoral"?

I'm not talking about big bucks or obsessive behaviour, but just the occasional small bet on a horse race.

what's wrong with that?

It's your fellow fundamentalist christians that declared gambling to be "immoral". Ask them.

 

[Skwim]

not that this was addressed to me but I'll answer it anyway.

I enjoy horse-racing and usually have a bet each day if possible.

I eat meat and think that is acceptable.

However, bestiality is most definitely wrong.


they are different issues and it is pointless linking them together.

Different issues? Only because you don't want to consider them in the same context: the abuse of animals. So while you need to dismiss them as pointless so as to justify your daily betting and meat consumption, you're not fooling anyone by your claim; your playing the hypocrite.

 

[Father Heathen]

Then I assume you're also against horse racing, dog sledding, pig breeding "prisons," and caging animals in zoos.

If it causes unnecessary pain and suffering, then it's unethical.

 

[no-body]

We are chimpanzees. We kill and eat it the gazelle, we don't frak it. It's in our nature to kill and eat our prey not to frak it, that's just the way things are.

I'm not going to defend people who have sex with animals but this logic makes no sense, it isn't natural to create works of art but we do anyway. Defining what is or is not "natural" is kind of dumb.

There is also some evidence of inter species sexuality. Arguably we wouldn't be here without it.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

We are chimpanzees. We kill and eat it the gazelle, we don't frak it. It's in our nature to kill and eat our prey not to frak it, that's just the way things are.

Then why do shepherds love their sheep so?