Is being gay a sin according to your religion?

[CMike]

Then by all means - show us the scripture where Jesus condemns homosexuals?


You can't - because there isn't one!



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I can.

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)

In the Torah G-D calls homosexual behavior an abomination.

 

[CMike]

You say the Bible is the word of God, and then when shown error, tell us there is no science. There is error in the Bible Science! The Bible has ERROR. We are told the earth is a scribed circle (not a sphere) with the heaven like a tent above it, and God on top looking down.


Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle (chug) of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Chug = a flat scribed circle = pancake shape.



God does not call homosexuality a sin. Sacred Sex which is idolatry, is a sin.



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Aside from analyzing Isaiah.

There is no error in the Torah, the five books of Moses.

The prophets is not inerrant since it was written by the individual prophet.

 

[CMike]

This is from Psalms 19

8. The law of the Lord is perfect, restoring the soul; the testimony of the Lord is faithful, making the simple one wise.

 

[Ingledsva]

I can.

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV)

In the Torah G-D calls homosexual behavior an abomination.

Mat. 5 obviously doesn't prohibit homosexuality!


Neither does Tanakh actually.


And You're not a hypocrite picking and choosing which ones you want to keep?


You don't eat pork, mix material, don't touch menstruating women, You stone to death people having sex outside of marriage, burn alive those slutty preacher's daughters, kill people that don't attend Temple, etc.?


You aren't a hypocrite - you follow all 613 Mosaic Laws? Yes?


Except of course the ones that await the rebuilding of the Temple.



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[CMike]

Mat. 5 obviously doesn't prohibit homosexuality!


Neither does Tanakh actually.


And You're not a hypocrite picking and choosing which ones you want to keep?


You don't eat pork, mix material, don't touch menstruating women, You stone to death people having sex outside of marriage, burn alive those slutty preacher's daughters, kill people that don't attend Temple, etc.?


You aren't a hypocrite - you follow all 613 Mosaic Laws? Yes?


Except of course the ones that await the rebuilding of the Temple.



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How do you know what laws I do or I don't keep? I am jewish not christian.

Once again, you show a lack of understanding of Jewish law.

1) You can't enforce jewish law without a jewish court able to enforce jewish law which doesn't exist when it comes to criminal matters

2) The criteria for the death penalty is so high that it was impossible to keep. It was done so intentionally that way.

Also I wasn't aware of the killing people whom don't attend temple. Maybe you can quote the passage for me?

And yes the Torah prohibits homosexual behavior. G-D calls it an abomination.

 

[CMike]

This is a good story.

High Priestess

 

[dgirl1986]

This is from Psalms 19

8. The law of the Lord is perfect, restoring the soul; the testimony of the Lord is faithful, making the simple one wise.

I guess contradictions are considered perfect these days

 

[Desert Snake]

Aside from analyzing Isaiah.

There is no error in the Torah, the five books of Moses.

The prophets is not inerrant since it was written by the individual prophet.

Wow..there is no 'error in the Tanach either, that is a pretty wild statement if you are implying there is.

 

[CMike]

Wow..there is no 'error in the Tanach either, that is a pretty wild statement if you are implying there is.

The Torah is from G-D so there is no error.

The prophets are from the individual prophet so it's not perfect like the the Torah is.

 

[CMike]

I guess contradictions are considered perfect these days

You mean you don't understand the meaning.

 

[Viker]

Nope. My particular path only requires your presence and that you pay attention. One's sexual orientation and preferences are irrelevant.

 

[Ingledsva]

How do you know what laws I do or I don't keep? I am jewish not christian.


ING - I am well aware that you have Judaism listed by your name.


Once again, you show a lack of understanding of Jewish law.

1) You can't enforce jewish law without a jewish court able to enforce jewish law which doesn't exist when it comes to criminal matters


ING - Hence why I mentioned ones that can't be at the moment.


2) The criteria for the death penalty is so high that it was impossible to keep. It was done so intentionally that way.


ING - I keep hearing this - however - we are talking about ancient laws that were carried out.


Also I wasn't aware of the killing people whom don't attend temple. Maybe you can quote the passage for me?

And yes the Torah prohibits homosexual behavior. G-D calls it an abomination.

Found that info on the JewFaq.org site (great site for information) which apparently is down at the moment - here is something to hold you until they are back up.

Lev 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.

Just about every person I know does this, except me. I don't like swearing.

Deu 17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.


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[Leftimies]

Being gay? Nothing, really, if you don't act on it. The state itself is just like any other mental state, in itself not inherently malicious nor good.

Acting on it is viewed as not recommendable, pointless and not bearing good merit. Even delusional. Refraining from it is viewed as high merit action.

 

[Norman]

Hello Ingledsva,
Thank you for replying to my post. I just answered the question as it was stated. I have two dear friends who are in a same sex relationship. One couple is married. I love them as much as my other friends who are not engaged in same sex attraction. I am happy to respond in a conversation with you on this topic. I do not use disparaging or decry comments.

 

[Muffled]

in Shirkism it is encouraged

Is that somethinng like Californication by the red Hot Chili Peppers?

 

[Muffled]

There is absolutely no proof that Jesus speaks through you, - especially concerning things he, himself, chose not to teach, !



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I believe you are correct. There is no proof. However that does not change the reality.

 

[Muffled]

If thats how it works then you can just throw out the bible then cant you

Jesus in me approves the Bible but He does not have the Bible for His god.

It is true that Jesus does not say anything about Homosexaulity in the Bible so what He says to me is extra-biblical. It makes sense to me. If a person wishes to know, ask.

 

[Call_of_the_Wild]

I don't have a religion and being gay is fine by me. What about you guys??

Being gay is a sin. Fornication is a sin. Adultery is a sin.

 

[TheOurNation]

Having homosexual desires is not necessarily haram (sin). Just like straight sexual desires are not sinful as long as they are controlled. However, acting upon that homosexuality is definitely haram (sin). Watching porn, masturbation, premarital sex, sexual perversions - all of these things are forbidden gay or straight. Sex is only permitted within a stable marriage out of compassion and love for the other person, not for fulfillment of desires. Homosexual marriage is definitely haram though.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Being gay is a sin. Fornication is a sin. Adultery is a sin.

Merely being gay is sinful? What a despicable notion.