Is Buddhism a branch of Hinduism

[Spirit of Light]

Honestly i do not understand you.
Because what you say now and what you said earlier in this thread does contradict each other.

In one moment ou say "I fight. I fight to win." then suddenly you say " the right thoughts and justifications for ones actions"

Or you say "One should be compassionate towards the innocent who are ignorant and down trodden because we need to live in a society that functions for all citizens" Then later you say "I do not believe in love and compassion despite the ills that we suffer. "

 

[Shantanu]

Honestly i do not understand you.
Because what you say now and what you said earlier in this thread does contradict each other.

In one moment ou say "I fight. I fight to win." then suddenly you say " the right thoughts and justifications for ones actions"

Or you say "One should be compassionate towards the innocent who are ignorant and down trodden because we need to live in a society that functions for all citizens" Then later you say "I do not believe in love and compassion despite the ills that we suffer. "

You want to understand how an Existential Hindu lives, then I will be a happy to explain. A Existential Hindu assess all the evidence of what he is up against and takes the appropriate steps to deal with the injustice. This requires intelligence.

 

[Spirit of Light]

You want to understand how an Existential Hindu lives, then I will be a happy to explain. A Existential Hindu assess all the evidence of what he is up against and takes the appropriate steps to deal with the injustice. This requires intelligence.

Is there injustice in everything you see, hear or experience?

 

[Shantanu]

Is there injustice in everything you see, hear or experience?

No; so long as I have not fully abandoned my path of satya-advaita justice will prevail.

 

[Spirit of Light]

No; so long as I have not fully abandoned my path of satya-advaita justice will prevail.

If someone punch you, should you punch back or smile and walk away?

 

[Aupmanyav]

Buddhism was a branch of Hinduism at one time. Now, it is a religion in its own right. However, some Hindus like me cannot see any diference between the two whatsoever.

 

[Shantanu]

If someone punch you, should you punch back or smile and walk away?

It depends on how powerful that someone is: also remember the proverb: He who fights and walks away lives to fight another day. Buddha would not have taught you this.

 

[Spirit of Light]

It depends on how powerful that someone is: also remember the proverb: He who fights and walks away lives to fight another day. Buddha would not have taught you this.

Buddha tought us that if someone punch me it probably is a reason behind it, and the reason can be that i may have harmed the person who punch me in my past life, so why would i punch him? waste of energy, i walk away

 

[Shantanu]

Buddha tought us that if someone punch me it probably is a reason behind it and the reason can be that i may have harmed the person who punch me in my past life, so why would i punch him? waste of energy, i walk away

Buddha must have had his reasons for saying that, but I think I must have harmed that person in this life in some way, that is why he is picking a fight with me wanting to punch me. I simply must win this fight before my life ends because I will not get another chance on account of me not being myself in my next life as I will be someone else - even if I believe what Buddha taught on reincarnation.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Buddha must have had his reasons for saying that, but I think I must have harmed that person in this life in some way, that is why he is picking a fight with me wanting to punch me. I simply must win this fight before my life ends because I will not get another chance on account of me not being myself in my next life as I will be someone else - even if I believe what Buddha taught on reincarnation.

Why so important to win? and is harming others a rightway to win? would it not be seen as a better person if one could just smile an walk away even if beaten? winning is not about harming others or being better then others, winning is being better then one self in the past

 

[crossfire]

Buddhism was a branch of Hinduism at one time. Now, it is a religion in its own right. However, some Hindus like me cannot see any diference between the two whatsoever.

Enlighten us regarding this, please. When did Buddha teach Hinduism?

 

[Shantanu]

Why so important to win? and is harming others a rightway to win? would it not be seen as a better person if one could just smile an walk away even if beaten? winning is not about harming others or being better then others, winning is being better then one self in the past

Dharma yudha (war) my friend: there can only be one winner in this war: and I need to prove that truth will prevail so as to prove the truth about my Hindu teachings. If I do not win it would have turned out to be false teaching Jata Dharma tata jayo would have been disproven (the University of Greenwich perpetrated racial discrimination against me in the allocation of career facilities which the UK State covered up through State manipulation of the judiciary) so there would be no hope for mankind. My dharma yuda is or is not God-blessed, that is the question.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Dharma yudha (war) my friend: there can only be one winner in this war: and I need to prove that truth will prevail so as to prove the truth about my Hindu teachings. If I do not win it would have turned out to be false teaching Jata Dharma tata jayo would have been disproven (the University of Greenwich perpetrated racial discrimination against me in the allocation of career facilities which the UK State covered up through State manipulation of the judiciary) so there would be no hope for mankind. My dharma yuda is or is not God-blessed, that is the question.

Only way that truth can win is to speak the truth,do the truth and think the truth. War against others do not work. it only create more hate and suffering.

 

[Shantanu]

Only way that truth can win is to speak the truth,do the truth and think the truth. War against others do not work. it only create more hate and suffering.

You have not got a clue what dharmayudha is, do you?

 

[Spirit of Light]

You have not got a clue what dharmayudha is, do you?

It means war of dharma but in Buddhism this is not a part of the teaching at all. The only thing that can protect the dharma is truth it self.

 

[Shantanu]

It means war of dharma but in Buddhism this is not a part of the teaching at all. The only thing that can protect the dharma is truth it self.

And what did the Buddha teach of how to find the truth?

 

[Spirit of Light]

And what did the Buddha teach of how to find the truth?

To cultivate the dharma (following his teaching and to realise it for our self)

 

[Shantanu]

To cultivate the dharma (following his teaching and to realise it for our self)

That was very sound advice.

 

[Shantanu]

Buddhism was a branch of Hinduism at one time. Now, it is a religion in its own right. However, some Hindus like me cannot see any diference between the two whatsoever.

Buddha derived his vision independently on the cause of suffering and the means for the cessation of suffering. I do not think anyone in Hinduism had ever talked about this before. Of course some Hindus like myself adopted this and made it part of their Hinduism.

I could be wrong. So please clarify.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Enlighten us regarding this, please. When did Buddha teach Hinduism?

I have read quote by another Hindu member from a Buddhist monk of old saying that 'Buddhism is not nastika'. He counted it along with the other orthodox Hindu philosophies. I do not exactly remember which member posted that - Sayak/SomeRandom/Satyamevajayanti or some one else. Sunyata does not mean nihilism, as you may well be aware of it. The difference is that Buddha did not dwell upon it. There is Buddhadhatu, Dhammakaya and Tathagatagarbha. All that is not any different from undefined Hindu (Nirguna) Brahman. For Dhamma, there is no difference. The Noble Eight-Fold path is as valid for a Hindu as it is for a Buddhist. Regarding 'anatta' and 'anicca', it is no different from the the illusion in Mayavada/Advaita. 'Jnana' in Hinduism is no different from 'Bodhi/knowing/understanding/enlightenment' in Buddhism. That is why the theists/orthodox called Sankaracharya as a Buddhist. I consider both, Buddha and Sankara as my 'gurus'. And that is why B.R. Ambedkar asked his followers to embrace Buddhism in preference to Christianity or Islam. He knew that it would not be a break from Hinduism. So, tell me where is the difference between Buddhism and Advaita Hinduism?