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Is Cannabis the Answer?

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Talking of conspiracy theories......

The rate of Autism spectrum disorders has gone through the roof in recent decades. Many people point fingers at the MMR vaccinations as a cause of this rise in such cases. The medical profession denies such a link.

Interestingly when you consider populations where little to no vaccinations are used, the Amish community in the US for example....a recent government survey pegged the incidence of autism in the general population at 1 in 45 children.

"Dr. Frank Noonan is a doctor who treats Amish children in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. He has said that he has seen no cases of autism in the thousands of Amish children he has treated over 25 years. “You’ll find all the other stuff, but we don’t find the autism. We’re right in the heart of Amish country and seeing none, and that’s just the way it is.” Dr. Heng Wang is a neurologist and the director of the Clinic for Special Needs Children in Ohio, another area where there is a large Amish population. He has estimated the rate of autism in the Amish community to be 1 in 15,000."

Let’s Go Find Unvaccinated Children with Autism

Do the stats lie? :shrug:
 
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Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
SO this same religion that tells you its OK to eat animals, also tells you its OK to get high on drugs and alcohol??

No Lyndon, it tells me to use my common sense, which would also tell me that getting high on anything for the fun of it, is not good for you. Abusing anything will make you sick. Its about the balance, which you seem unable to discern. :(
 

Jedster

Flying through space
anything swallowed in quantity will kill you
including water

I might point out ....it was made illegal when no one but the users understood
and the Dupont company had just invented nylon rope
To stamp out hemp rope....make it illegal

yeah....money motivated the law

Hemp products are quite popular whwere I live
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Hemp In Avalon –
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Hemp is the perfect plant...it has so many uses....but sinister reasons for why it was banned.


It could save the planet!
 
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savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
So your advice on diet is something you don't take seriously yourself. Obviously there's plenty of evidence for a vegetarian diet being better for health, but you don't care because your religion doesn't command it, convenient.
Not convenient. For a lot of people, it is practical. For instance, I am sure I would not eat meat many times that I do if I did not live with people who eat meat. If I were to decide to be vegetarian or vegan, I would be cooking not once to three times a day, but double that. I am not going to cook six times a day!
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Its not very convenient for those animals to get their heads chopped off and cut up into meat for you, either!!
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
you don't mind if those kids smoke medical marijuana??
I do mind about all smoking of anything. I think smoke of any kind is bad for a person's lungs, especially bad for young lungs. I think that things that are considered bad by people like you exist especially for sick and old people. I do not smoke, but I think I might start it again when I am old and dying.

Children who are not cared for is a much, much greater problem than killing animals for eating them.

I would consider fighting for a gratifying life for ALL of Earth's animals (including people) rather than what you do.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
@Lyndon Do you remember why you took up smoking weed in the first place? Did you feel your life was unsatisfying? Did you have no helper?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Do you remember why you took up eating meat in the first place. Was your life unsatisfying without it, or doing you just like the taste of formerly living animals that you are responsible for being killed??
 

Papoon

Active Member
We aren't talking about recreational use of high THC cannabis, but high CBD, low THC medical marijuana.
No high's with this one if you watch the videos you will see why.
Actually it makes no difference if the THC content is high. Unless the weed is decarboxylated by heat (smoking or cooking), there is no high.
So you can steep cannabis in oil to obtain all the medicinal qualities without getting high.
 

Papoon

Active Member
Whatever's utter BS. Marijuana present a clear and present danger to people with mental illnesses or tendencies to develop such, and this has been demonstrated scientifically through reputable studies over and over. Pot heads are living in the dark, just waiting for their next fix.
Right. So let's criminalise anything and everything which a mentally ill person may abuse or be affected by...

Hey, let's criminalise the social norms which disturb them !
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
The multitude of uses for hemp are well documented. All bio-degradable and non polluting.....but the big boys who want to produce poisonous products from their industrial waste, will continue to pollute this planet with their horrible counterfeits. Look at the plastic pollution on this planet.....just mind boggling. :eek:

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Makes you sick, doesn't it? :(
and the by products of plastic and nylon cannot be made nonpoisonous
 

Papoon

Active Member
you don't mind if those kids smoke medical marijuana??

Do you mind if they just eat it ? It is not psychoactive unless cooked or smoked.
So do you have any objection to cannabis as a medicine, apart from the (nonessential) high ?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Do you remember why you took up eating meat in the first place. Was your life unsatisfying without it, or doing you just like the taste of formerly living animals that you are responsible for being killed??
My mother fed me and my life was NOT satisfying, but how I felt was not caused by eating meat.
I had no one who knew how or wanted to mentor a child.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Do you mind if they just eat it ? It is not psychoactive unless cooked or smoked.
So do you have any objection to cannabis as a medicine, apart from the (nonessential) high ?

I don't have any problem with medical marijuana FOR THINGS IT HAS PROVEN TO BE EFFECTIVE FOR, from what I can see that is not that much, you tube videos or testimonials do not count as scientific evidence in my book. And Medical marijuana distributors are not qualified to distribute and prescribe "medicine" IMHO.
 

Jonathan Ainsley Bain

Logical Positivist
No one is disputing that habitual recreational pot smokers have done themselves some damage with too much of a good thing, but this is a completely different topic. Its the medical use of different strains of the plant that are sweeping the world.

Ignorance is what is keeping this medicine away from those who can benefit from it. Lumping the recreational plant in with the medicinal variety is how they can stop people from gaining the benefits for so many illnesses. The stalling tactics are just ridiculous. Those with a vested interest in continuing to profit from ill health have a strong voice. Let's just hope that the voice of reason and compassion is stronger.

I've never seen anyone harmed from marijuana used on its own.
I have seen people blame it when the reason is something else that is too scary for them to admit.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
i have seen some interviews of people who use the stuff for the high
there is the appearance......a shift in perspective takes hold

the relaxation eases the everyday stress
that leads to creativity

sure....there are many that just want that 'laid back'.......feel good

but not all people lump on the couch
 
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Jonathan Ainsley Bain

Logical Positivist
With all respect, it is, I have seen most of my friends over many years smoking that crap, and most of them are just not right, they don't like being around friends anymore, they seem to be very secluded, and my sister is one also.

No substance is inherently addictive; (other than food or water or air).
People have addictive personalities; the person who is addicted to Heroin, is often a compulsive sugar eater,
and if you take that away will resort to any compensatory behavior, even excessive exercise.
 
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