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Is Christ superior to other Prophets/Founders

Madmogwai

Madmogwai
The answer will differ according to each individual’s Religious beliefs.
To me Christ has no relevance any more then any other person the walked the Earth.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
The answer will differ according to each individual’s Religious beliefs.
To me Christ has no relevance any more then any other person the walked the Earth.

Yes each person has their own perspective.
With Buddha there is no pov except that he is a man like any other person that walked the earth.
With Jesus there is evidence that He came from God.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The story about three times.

Is man's ignorant position about life's sacrifycing and how it's not creative. Never was it creative.

Ignored. Ignored because you self idolate the warning.

Any human and thousands of humans have had phenomena occur.

Ignored as men self idolated.

Dominion human said after your new review life sacrificed but survived that it gave you precedence to do whatever you like.

Rationally that review states you are the most unreasonable of humans in fact destroyers.

As Satan angels images were put into clouds after origin life on earth was totally eradicated. It put once living civilisation under the ground.

Where machine mass came from. Artefacts inside instant snap fusion the proof. Life combusted yet evidence it existed was by instant snap freeze.

So hot no ice existed after. Eventual life returned as dinosaurs giant cells in garden. Ice the saviour after total life destroyed overcame giant celled life.

Said scientists. Knowing there is no past thesis about God to human. There never was. It was just a phenomena incident repeated as science is the only repeat.

So when you arrogant science liars combusted the garden nature all the past memories visionary re manifested. As clouds cooled new inputted stories emerge.

The only reason humans were told why. Visionary.

So like Jesus cloud return changed by burning star with Bahuallah. The preceding man image comes down to ground as clouds change so new life sacrificed is aware then new image joins cloud images.

The same Bahuallah incident was revisited from Muhammad to Jesus also. Same terms old father came down from cloud image Jesus anew.

The same incidence dinosaurs ensued as they now have cloud images also.

Pretty arrogant of any human to say you are special by clouds mass changed.

No scientist invented clouds and volcanos history in space always owned clouds naturally. By terms what is a cloud...God.

Science said earth was it's own creator a sun only time shifted infinite immaculate a mass back to a pre history Cooling.

The theme what is god...why is God inferred in human sciences. Earths relativity versus sun.

As the body sun in space laws acts in it conditions. Earth space laws put suns burning fuel by law in outer space not inside gods heavens.

Is exactly the relativity you were advised yet sun black hole theists ignore the truth.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The story about three times.

Is man's ignorant position about life's sacrifycing and how it's not creative. Never was it creative.

Ignored. Ignored because you self idolate the warning.

Any human and thousands of humans have had phenomena occur.

Ignored as men self idolated.

Dominion human said after your new review life sacrificed but survived that it gave you precedence to do whatever you like.

Rationally that review states you are the most unreasonable of humans in fact destroyers.

As Satan angels images were put into clouds after origin life on earth was totally eradicated. It put once living civilisation under the ground.

Where machine mass came from. Artefacts inside instant snap fusion the proof. Life combusted yet evidence it existed was by instant snap freeze.

So hot no ice existed after. Eventual life returned as dinosaurs giant cells in garden. Ice the saviour after total life destroyed overcame giant celled life.

Said scientists. Knowing there is no past thesis about God to human. There never was. It was just a phenomena incident repeated as science is the only repeat.

So when you arrogant science liars combusted the garden nature all the past memories visionary re manifested. As clouds cooled new inputted stories emerge.

The only reason humans were told why. Visionary.

So like Jesus cloud return changed by burning star with Bahuallah. The preceding man image comes down to ground as clouds change so new life sacrificed is aware then new image joins cloud images.

The same Bahuallah incident was revisited from Muhammad to Jesus also. Same terms old father came down from cloud image Jesus anew.

The same incidence dinosaurs ensued as they now have cloud images also.

Pretty arrogant of any human to say you are special by clouds mass changed.

No scientist invented clouds and volcanos history in space always owned clouds naturally. By terms what is a cloud...God.

Science said earth was it's own creator a sun only time shifted infinite immaculate a mass back to a pre history Cooling.

The theme what is god...why is God inferred in human sciences. Earths relativity versus sun.

As the body sun in space laws acts in it conditions. Earth space laws put suns burning fuel by law in outer space not inside gods heavens.

Is exactly the relativity you were advised yet sun black hole theists ignore the truth.
Relativity.

A baby man. Now adult.

Owned life by human mother's ova.

Women's cell changed to man's body cell by sex.

Exact teaching.

Man taught I own life only because immaculate still exists...relativity. the body mass that was self conceived if gods.

Now you do maths space womb fake thinking. Change your brain mind by machine constant.

You forget yourself and are no longer enabled to reading what is a science thesis.

You lied about your life.

...you didnt represent two humans as a theist.

...you aren't God body mass it's immaculate gas spirit conception.

....you ignored the holy human life's natural position.

Virtually tried to destroy human life as man woman in one body.

Lucky our holy parents were each one human life self owned.

Instead of total destruction you gained attack of two bodies human that barely survived.

Seeing gods heavens mass is huge so victims you said were chosen by you. Science caused by gods man will.

Not that choosing was real as sporadic fall phenomena is real.

What you caused as man pretending space womb conceived humans bio life as a human baby adult theist.

Same circumstance today false theorising as no living man is a living monkey.

Mind says itself as it sees...I'm not a Monkey is gods advice.

Real review I'm alive as my terms what is god is determined by man as highest greatest presence keeps life safe. Just a living humans review never a thesis.

I'm possessed by theoried theories...obsess of Sion.

Sion men said was man's evil choices against holiness.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Relativity.

A baby man. Now adult.

Owned life by human mother's ova.

Women's cell changed to man's body cell by sex.

Exact teaching.

Man taught I own life only because immaculate still exists...relativity. the body mass that was self conceived if gods.

Now you do maths space womb fake thinking. Change your brain mind by machine constant.

You forget yourself and are no longer enabled to reading what is a science thesis.

You lied about your life.

...you didnt represent two humans as a theist.

...you aren't God body mass it's immaculate gas spirit conception.

....you ignored the holy human life's natural position.

Virtually tried to destroy human life as man woman in one body.

Lucky our holy parents were each one human life self owned.

Instead of total destruction you gained attack of two bodies human that barely survived.

Seeing gods heavens mass is huge so victims you said were chosen by you. Science caused by gods man will.

Not that choosing was real as sporadic fall phenomena is real.

What you caused as man pretending space womb conceived humans bio life as a human baby adult theist.

Same circumstance today false theorising as no living man is a living monkey.

Mind says itself as it sees...I'm not a Monkey is gods advice.

Real review I'm alive as my terms what is god is determined by man as highest greatest presence keeps life safe. Just a living humans review never a thesis.

I'm possessed by theoried theories...obsess of Sion.

Sion men said was man's evil choices against holiness.
Now place your mind in aware sporadic group fallout. Feedback visions.

Animals dying too. All around earths body.

Suddenly you're aware by cloud images of all things that board enter clouds as UFO ark crossed burning. So life's holy heavens cell support blood oxygen gets burnt.

Your own body relying on water with minerals within evaporating with living cells gets removed. Everything attacked.

Saviour Cooling not instant ice...allows biology to get Sacrificed yet saved. Puts back holy water. Less minerals than before.

As attack removes holy dusts minerals by causes.

Man's idea says was as garden mass burns wood combusting Sacrificed...as he began to early age die. How all subjects are involved yet are all different bodies naturally.

Gods stone ark planet earth moves through four sea of son...seasons in its space travel. Holy life with ice natural cross.

As arks came from out of space said scientists.

As had planet earth as rock.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
I believe people of religions rather than following Christ are capable of self destruction or at least going to the hell as described in the Bible.
Volcanoes hell in earth Inside earth as gods mass hell...pushed up in space pressures.

No heavens.

Attack cooling of volcanic arising law mountain of God earth O stopped.

Natural law god in space pressures volcano mass. Mountain.

So tectonic carpenter plate shift men of science built. Was caused to underground mass consuming of its body by 12 light gas thesis nearly destroyed us.

Man digging deep holes in science investigating said plastic like substances deep dig was found. You prove you knew.

As science getting his gas ideas consciously was only by living inside the heavens. Applied science to mass of earth to get a gas spirit themselves.

Earthquakes tried to put origin volcanic law owned by space Rock back by science owned causes. Said men.

Warned as legal men.

As a gas heavens had not existed as Gods mass type first.

Is the actual relativity warnings men tried to give earth hell. Why coloured dusts flowed out onto rock not gases as colours. With released water mass in Moses review. Why life was so badly mutated when dna genesis of life left. Garden combusted.

Gardens bio roots as it's bio substance is under the ground evidence that science lied.
 

Apostle John

“Go ahead, look up Revelation 6”
Volcanoes hell in earth Inside earth as gods mass hell...pushed up in space pressures.

No heavens.

Attack cooling of volcanic arising law mountain of God earth O stopped.

Natural law god in space pressures volcano mass. Mountain.

So tectonic carpenter plate shift men of science built. Was caused to underground mass consuming of its body by 12 light gas thesis nearly destroyed us.

Man digging deep holes in science investigating said plastic like substances deep dig was found. You prove you knew.

As science getting his gas ideas consciously was only by living inside the heavens. Applied science to mass of earth to get a gas spirit themselves.

Earthquakes tried to put origin volcanic law owned by space Rock back by science owned causes. Said men.

Warned as legal men.

As a gas heavens had not existed as Gods mass type first.

Is the actual relativity warnings men tried to give earth hell. Why coloured dusts flowed out onto rock not gases as colours. With released water mass in Moses review. Why life was so badly mutated when dna genesis of life left. Garden combusted.

Gardens bio roots as it's bio substance is under the ground evidence that science lied.
That sounds too hallucinogenic to me. I have never done drugs only alcohol but I never get drunk. Good luck if you don’t wish to follow the Bible.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
That sounds too hallucinogenic to me. I have never done drugs only alcohol but I never get drunk. Good luck if you don’t wish to follow the Bible.
It's natural history and not man's science. Science never even existed. Metal belongs in law in cold pre melted pressurised space mass.

No machine no science as machines was science of men. Time shifted a dust back into seam melt already destroyed mass seam was by the sun. A truly evil choice.

Men said I time transported my machine from destruction past to now it's future.

Machines look back earth history said if biology was living to begin a machine in laws we'd all be combusted.

Yes man said first parents gone now dusts as biology. They are the past. I'll take their bio dusts destroy them to ashes by my machines reactions nuclear.

Lucky cold metal is used to apply.
Inside a Nuclear reaction. Yet you use living water always...our life support.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Dates vary. My point is that Krishna stated it well before Jesus said a similar thing. If Jesus is unique so too is Krishna and all the other Messengers. None are superior to one another.

I have no reason to believe Krishna is older. But, maybe that is irrelevant. I think they don't have same teachings. And I think the teachings of Jesus are more meaningful. For example because Jesus wanted all people to hear his message.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
I have no reason to believe Krishna is older. But, maybe that is irrelevant. I think they don't have same teachings. And I think the teachings of Jesus are more meaningful. For example because Jesus wanted all people to hear his message.

Krishna teaches to love God with all one’s heart. No different to Jesus. Just a different age. But They both taught the love of God.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Krishna teaches to love God with all one’s heart. No different to Jesus. Just a different age. But They both taught the love of God.

If the teachings are the same, are they the same person? It is nice, if they agree on that, but I think there are also other teachings that are not the same.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
If the teachings are the same, are they the same person? It is nice, if they agree on that, but I think there are also other teachings that are not the same.

The spiritual teachings such as to love God and each other, lead a virtuous life and have a pure heart are the same. Only the social laws and customs which are different for each culture differ such as marriage and diet.

Think of the physical sun. It returns each day but is the same sun. But with regard to the days we call them by different names but it is still the same sun.

So too the Word of God rises and sets in every age and although at one time it is called Jesus and at another Krishna, it is the same Sun of Truth rising and setting each day.

But some, unaware of this will argue that the sun of Monday and the sun of Tuesday are two different suns. We know that not to be true. It’s an illusion. There is really only one Sun both physical and spiritual.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
I wonder how men born by the same two humans sex act don't realise a man Human is the same human everywhere. Brothers.

Just changed in their nations environment.

The star mass fall heavens change to biology sacrificed was in your nations position. Is personal. But it too is the same circumstance. Same type of information reasoned.

So you write stories my life was hurt more than yours brother human. Yet we survived. I then self idolated as rich man Inventor of science already was Idolating.

Civilisation designed first as using design as king's lords jewel gold owners. Just men.

As earth is not in our lifes experience a fixed held position. It's fixed as it's exact fixed in science terms as O mass 12/12 heavens 12 month cycle. Fixed status.

It moves. We aren't all living in one point on the ground.

Sciences thesis is one point one idea fixed machines position...science the term what is actually science for humans on earth.

Fixed machine body.

Once multiple countries were using the same one fixed machine. Were all attacked in the same conditions.

Technology pyramid.

So all science men were taught in the same incidence.

Afterwards sporadic returns were experienced that Proved no man controlled suns star mass.

The teaching scientists as theists lied about.

Man didn't out earths sun light above.

Science however removed it by making day go dark as heated space background Jesus terms. Sacrificed natural light gas spirit body removed by mother vacuum void. Then star mass burning returned reignited light above.

Man's memory possessed by science now claiming he put light into earths heavens himself as science. By invention.

Reckons he can do it again by study of it and heavens new experiments.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
The spiritual teachings such as to love God and each other, lead a virtuous life and have a pure heart are the same. ....

Sorry, I am not yet convinced about that. But, I think it is interesting, if that is the teaching of them all, why do people not follow it?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
The spiritual teachings such as to love God and each other, lead a virtuous life and have a pure heart are the same. Only the social laws and customs which are different for each culture differ such as marriage and diet.
I just can't fathom the arrogance that would look at a religion that you don't even belong to and say "yeah... you know all the things that make your religion unique, even the things in core expressions of your faith like the Shahadah or the Apostle's Creed? They're all just window-dressing that doesn't really matter. The only genuine parts of your religion are the ones that agree with my religion."

Is hubris considered a sin in the Baha'i faith?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The review man named energy so he could abstract it. As science.

As trade relied on invention and invention energy to resource.

So energy is used for machines but also weapons.

Basic advice it's dangerous.

Man's behaviours ....many of them are dangerous also as choices.

Can you resource dangerous human behaviours?

No.

Humanity hence should ask what are men looking for as a concept ... I seek God for science?

Being the argument the reason for inferences stories or questions.

Human good or bad behaviours vary. The human..all born. Or human purpose in civilisation.

Humans therefore are not what scientists are looking for.

Yet when men say I'm from god...science wants it for resources.

The basic reason why humans had to argue for rights to live and be present in life.

Human claim hell is on earth. Humans were sent to hell. A lot of the types of living conditions humans endure today would convince you it real.

Who is a humans saviour therefore but another human?

If you say the alter mind a theist human scientist burnt biology to death once. Archaeology proves by dug up instant snap frozen artefacts inside fusion. They had.

Is the argument right here right now. See what you caused as returned life the conscious spiritual human mind life and body to become lived changed.

If science believes a human returns enters into the eternal. And they say I want to resource that body. As greed says thought upon a non stop never ending resource.

The argument is about the eternal and humans thinking that they can bodily enter it. Return to it.

Sciences human wish.

We don't.

So some scientists say no such thing as the eternal.

I know they are wrong ....and I also know science wanting it as a human is wrong.

I express thought ....if a human is wanting it as a human. They want it to be of a human...or as a human.

Basic reason why life was sacrificed.

Science wanted it.

So if you are going to use an argument. You need to know what the argument is about.

Our own advice life is conceived of itself and it is lived. Sex brought life back into man's owned hurt life. Owns it's purpose to live and survive.

We didn't return to hell. We teach we return to live inside the heavens.

Space owns the heavens. Not science.

There is no resource.
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
Yes Jesus is the one sent by God, the Son of God and superior to any Baha'i Messenger, even superior to the Jesus of Baha'i interpretation. God's plan is to unite all things in Christ, and that means Jesus (Ephesians 1:10 ) Baha'u'llah brings nothing new and cannot do the things that the Messiah is supposed to do,,,,,,,,,,, except interpret those things away with allegory.
And I still haven't seen their interpretation of the empty tomb. If Jesus rose spiritually, then the body should have still been there.
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
I just can't fathom the arrogance that would look at a religion that you don't even belong to and say "yeah... you know all the things that make your religion unique, even the things in core expressions of your faith like the Shahadah or the Apostle's Creed? They're all just window-dressing that doesn't really matter. The only genuine parts of your religion are the ones that agree with my religion."

Is hubris considered a sin in the Baha'i faith?
I have a problem with this... "social laws and customs which are different for each culture differ such as marriage and diet."? God supposedly sends a manifestation/messenger to a particular people at a particular time and place and gives them, and only them specific marriage and diet law? So, God told some people to be vegetarians and others not to eat shellfish or pigs or rabbits? He told some people one wife, two wives, or three wives? Is there a religion where God told them is was okay to have even more? To me, I still think it makes more sense that each culture ate and married however many people they wanted and made up who and how many Gods they wanted to believe in.
 
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