• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Is evolution as crooked as Hillary?

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
There's that word again "evolution", biology isn't enough to study the plants and animals? We need evolution too? What is "biological evolution", the evolution of biology, a chronological study of bio science advancements?

As I said, the aim of sciences is to describe and understand the world around us. As such, the sciences never rest - they are always pushing into new frontiers to further our understanding. Describing and classifying biological organisms was an early endeavor of biological sciences. As we started making these observations, more questions arose. Why does this organism have features similar to this other organism? How are these organisms related to each other? How did these organisms come to be? Biological evolution is a scientific theory that helps answer these types of questions. It's part of studying the plants and animals as much as studying anatomy, physiology, taxonomy, metabolism, genetics, etc. Any good undergraduate program in biological sciences requires students to study biological evolution for this reason. It is a central theory to the discipline.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Unfortunately for you, its not sufficient either to test or to develop vaccines. Understanding the evolutionary relations of cell structures and proteins and viral lineages is absolutely essential to guide the production of successful vaccines and other medicines.

https://books.google.com/books?id=2rhNZccHwDoC&lpg=PP1&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

The book is from 1995, so its not new now.

The 700 page authoritative textbook on cancer biology begins with the elucidating the principles of evolutionary genetics in its very first chapter, whose insights are used through the text to analyze cancer and approaches for cure.
https://www.amazon.com/Biology-Canc...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=G8CT5G7YTPEV60WJ8RWB

Evolution is to biology and medicine as grammar is to language.

You say that. It seems like more grammer and language than medicine. They still blast the cancer with radiation and hope the patient doesn't die?
 

Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
It's possible. I suppose I'm trying to crack through the lie and prove evolution as a dogma attached to real science, meaningless as campaign promises. Will biology stand without Evolution theory? Can we understand a seed without understanding its origin?

Did you ever get a flu shot? Why?

Why do you have to get another one each year? Another monstrous lie?
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I don't click links, could get a computer virus. But Cancer therapy an improved approach. Why try to fit that word in there "evolved"?
Umm..because it uses the insights and predictions of the theory of evolution to develop more effective therapy..which would be clear if you click links.

That is beginning to change. Thanks to advances in sequencing technology and the development of massive collections of samples and clinical data, scientists are piecing together a more precise picture of how cancer evolves, revealing the roots of resistance and, in some cases, finding out how it might be overcome. With a growing arsenal of treatments, biologists are trying to capitalize on these insights.

“Cancer is continuously adapting, therefore we have to do so as well,” Bardelli says. In that spirit, last year he shifted the focus of his lab to studying the evolution of cancer. His team has modelled1how colorectal cancers respond to targeted therapies that are given in combinations, potentially revealing ways to prevent the tumour cells from becoming resistant. “We have very exciting data now on the possibility to track and treat evolution,” he says.

One of many many ways evolutionary insights prove vital in the science of medicine.

Type "Cancer therapy: an evolved approach" in your google search and click the link to the Nature article yourself.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Why don't you sum it up, you haven't peaked my interest to read the article. Natural cures are what the ancient world used, so it would be a devolved approach? I have no problem believing many cures can be found in nature. Google Oregano oil, many people swear it's the most powerful medicine ever. Can't patent it though so big pharma needs to come up with something else.
 

Monk Of Reason

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Why don't you sum it up, you haven't peaked my interest to read the article. Natural cures are what the ancient world used, so it would be a devolved approach? I have no problem believing many cures can be found in nature. Google Oregano oil, many people swear it's the most powerful medicine ever. Can't patent it though so big pharma needs to come up with something else.
While I am anti-big pharma but for other reasons I feel this needs to be said.

Life expectancy and medicine were dreadful in the days of old. Modern medicine is better now than it has ever been in the history of human kind. The "all natural remedy" movement is mostly based on false information. Most doctors prescribe cheaper treatments if they can. If no doctors prescribe it then there is a high likelyhood that it doesn't work.

But yeah big pharma is wrong for a lot of reasons. Number one is the pricing of their goods. Second is the development of so called "new" drugs which are often re-hashed drugs with changed non-active ingredents so they can put a new commercial out there. Also the FDA in America is absolute crap. The time it takes to get effective medicines into the market is far to slow and the acceptance of **** medicines far too high. They are not above lobbying. Also big pharma has lobbied congrses to pass mulitple laws that do everything from making it illegal to haggle prices to making it legal to buy doctors to prescribe their medication.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Natural cures are what the ancient world used, so it would be a devolved approach?
And what was their life expectancy?

Here in the States, historians tell us that the average life expectancy was around 35 years of age at the time of the Revolutionary War. Modern medicine, which has relied heavily on what the ToE informs us, now has us at roughly double that age.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
And what was their life expectancy?

Here in the States, historians tell us that the average life expectancy was around 35 years of age at the time of the Revolutionary War. Modern medicine, which has relied heavily on what the ToE informs us, now has us at roughly double that age.
I'd credit the tractor, people live a life of ease and plenty, relatively.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Anyone dying at 35 probably died from a broken back.
Nope, as in many cases the historians could tell what in general what likely killed them, and infant mortality is very high on the list.

The reality is that the basic ToE has been well established and is used extensively in the biological sciences and other related fields. One does not "believe" in the ToE, as they either accept the overwhelming scientific evidence or they don't.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Nope, as in many cases the historians could tell what in general what likely killed them, and infant mortality is very high on the list.

The reality is that the basic ToE has been well established and is used extensively in the biological sciences and other related fields. One does not "believe" in the ToE, as they either accept the overwhelming scientific evidence or they don't.
And why would infants be dying? No tractors, hard times. Not enough cotton, no blankets, means a cold baby catching pneumonia.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Darwin is the Creator? Should we kneel and bow now or dig him up first?

Well, we do not usuall kneel and bow to anybody. This is what you guys like to do. Or feel compelled to do. For some inscrutable reason.

But since Darwin is himself the product of evolution, I am not sure what you mean.

Do you maybe believe that humans have been created in the form and shape of an ape by a God so that humans are in His image?

Ciao

- viole
 
Top