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Is god evil

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
They didn't have to know about falsehood... All they had to know was to obey God.
But the serpent claimed to know what God knew. Genesis 3:5. How would Eve know if the serpent was telling the truth or lying?
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
What difference does it make?
She knew it was "naughty" ..
If the serpent is correct about not dying, then God wasn't being honest about the tree of knowledge. If so, then it wasn't naughty at all. Besides Eve could have thought that the serpent was a god, since it knows what God knows.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
I think we stray from my point here but there are foods that need time and process to become edible. Eating them too soon or if not properly prepared will likely end up making you very ill or die.
If I baked a poisonous pie and didn't tell you or even worse encouraged you to eat it, that would be psychotic. But to continue, the dang pie is something which, once eaten by the creature will elevate it to a higher level of existence. It will no longer be merely a lowly creature but an "enlightened" one. Unfortunately the instinct of the lowly creature is to eat the pie when it wants to eat the pie. To get past that the creature must accept two things at least. Trust in the baker and desire to become enlightened.
This still puts the blame directly on the pie maker. God had to know they would eat the fruit.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Your splitting hairs. With todays modern equipment I could whack of the side of a hill and make quite a decent cliff to jump off.
Next you'll ask....well why did you create the cliff since it's now a hazard? I did it in order to benefit you and yours somehow....explanations all the way down but you haven't the lifespan nor intelligence to comprehend....so lets get passed that one shall we.
This is just avoiding my objection.


Your quite right, indeed it does. Yet all human endeavors and disciplines are rife with its own mistaken disciples. That does not mean truth does not reside there and cannot be found. There are those who promote the faith wisely and those who fail miserably. I'd say if you are sincere in your search you would be able to discern the wheat from the chaff.
How is that possible? There is no good evidence to believe one over another. It is not my fault that the evidence is lacking.


I don't know...I wasn't there. The truth the bible is imparting though is that man put its trust in something other than its creator. This cost mankind. The rest of the show is all about rectifying that cost.
Now if you want to get into the nitty gritty of ruminating, speculating, and philosophizing about the details I think that would take us volumes of text and googles of hours. So many have gone sooo deep into it you'd probably benefit from a good theological text to start with concerning the archetypes and analogies and historicity and unifying themes found throughout scripture.
So I need man made books to understand the perfect word of god?
 
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