Is God perfect and omnipotent?

[Copernicus]

If it's so easy, why hasn't anybody ever done it?

It has been done many times before. The Impossibility of God is a collection of essays by philosophers who discuss the logical inconsistencies inherent in an omnimax God. But such arguments do not mean that people will stop believing in one. For too many people, the idea that God might not exist is simply unthinkable.

 

[Thief]

It has been done many times before. The Impossibility of God is a collection of essays by philosophers who discuss the logical inconsistencies inherent in an omnimax God. But such arguments do not mean that people will stop believing in one. For too many people, the idea that God might not exist is simply unthinkable.

And people of ability fool themselves everyday...profoundly so.

People turn to the Spirit to explain what they experience.
Then when it is discovered to be 'natural'...they drop the spiritual idea.

That would be incorrect.

No one can remove the Creator from His creation.

Even if you discover how the mechanism works....God did it.

 

[Katzpur]

It has been done many times before. The Impossibility of God is a collection of essays by philosophers who discuss the logical inconsistencies inherent in an omnimax God. But such arguments do not mean that people will stop believing in one. For too many people, the idea that God might not exist is simply unthinkable.

Wrong. Nobody has ever proven that God does not exist, just as nobody has ever proven that He does. It's simply beyond our ability to do. Discussing"logical inconsistencies" isn't the same thing as proving something, because these "logical inconsistencies" only exist in how we try to understand God. You can, and I'm sure you will, disagree, but you're wrong -- not necessarily about the existence or non-existence of God, but about man's ability to prove it either way.

 

[Kriya Yogi]

One's that know God have told him to be perfect. I'm sure once we know him we will see everything in him to be perfect too. I think perfection is seen in everything once our consciousness is perfected.

 

[idav]

One's that know God have told him to be perfect. I'm sure once we know him we will see everything in him to be perfect too. I think perfection is seen in everything once our consciousness is perfected.

Perfection would have to be something of balance but with that neither good or evil would have a stronger advantage but turmoil would still exist.

 

[Kriya Yogi]

Perfection would have to be something of balance but with that neither good or evil would have a stronger advantage but turmoil would still exist.

Well that's how this universe is created. It is a equal combination of positive and negative energy. The dualistic nature of the universe. However once we perfect our consciousness we see everything as neutral.

 

[Copernicus]

Wrong. Nobody has ever proven that God does not exist, just as nobody has ever proven that He does. It's simply beyond our ability to do...

I disagree. If you define God as omnipotent and omniscient, you introduce properties that end up contradicting each other. For example, an omniscient God lacks free will or the ability to change anything, which renders "omnipotence" meaningless. God has to know beforehand what he will do. Otherwise, he cannot know the future. But I invite you to read the book before rejecting its contents. Just bear in mind that it does not try to prove the nonexistence of gods, just the particular God that Christians, Jews, and Muslims tend to believe in.

Discussing"logical inconsistencies" isn't the same thing as proving something, because these "logical inconsistencies" only exist in how we try to understand God. You can, and I'm sure you will, disagree, but you're wrong -- not necessarily about the existence or non-existence of God, but about man's ability to prove it either way.

Well, I do disagree, and I think that I am right to do so. We can only discuss beings whose qualities we have defined. It is meaningless to say that you believe in something that you do not understand. Once you try to define God, you open yourself up to the possibility that you have imagined an impossible being. It is fair game for others to point that out to you.

 

[Oneatatime]

Theists do tie themselves in knots with their superstitious claims. Long recognised problem which has generated much discussion but not much in the way of an admission that their fantasy story just makes no sense.

 

[Quagmire]

Theists do tie themselves in knots with their superstitious claims. Long recognised problem which has generated much discussion but not much in the way of an admission that their fantasy story just makes no sense.

Because theists only have one story.

 

[Thief]

Theists do tie themselves in knots with their superstitious claims. Long recognised problem which has generated much discussion but not much in the way of an admission that their fantasy story just makes no sense.

Only if you believe death is final.

How about you?...no afterlife for you?...

Eternal darkness is physically real.
One box....one grave....no light.

 

[Atheist94]

God is neither, case closed.