Is God pro-abortion?

[ElishaElijah]

Sadly you do not understand your own religion. In fact you cannot afford to. You claim to believe all of the Bible but it is clear that like all Christians that you merely pick and choose and try to reinterpret the uncomfortable parts. Unfortunately you still try to justify your God whom you continually paint as being immoral, incompetent, and vain.

Your Bible allows a father to sell his daughter into slavery. Lifelong slavery that she has no choice in. She can be sold to be essentially a sex slave. That is perfectly "moral" in the Bible.

And since the Bible is on both sides of almost every issue of course you can find a verse that appears to support you. But as I pointed out you have to ignore the verses that refute your beliefs.

Unfortunately you missed the whole message of the Bible. If you want to understand you’ll have to go to God and get that for yourself, otherwise you’ll keep stumbling around in the dark.

 

[McBell]

Unfortunately you missed the whole message of the Bible. If you want to understand you’ll have to go to God and get that for yourself, otherwise you’ll keep stumbling around in the dark.

Does this mean you are going to stop the sermons?
I mean, if he has "to go to God" to understand, what is it you are actually doing here?

 

[ElishaElijah]

Does this mean you are going to stop the sermons?
I mean, if he has "to go to God" to understand, what is it you are actually doing here?

When people have a false view of God, I share what He has done for me in hope they will go to
God too and taste for themselves that Lord is good. Why do you keep knocking on my door?

 

[McBell]

When people have a false view of God, I share what He has done for me in hope they will go to
God too and taste for themselves that Lord is good. Why do you keep knocking on my door?

Except that you have not shown anyone here has a false view of god.
Only that you are in disagreement of the views some others have of god.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Except that you have not shown anyone here has a false view of god.
Only that you are in disagreement of the views some others have of god.

Why you worried about it and what sermons are you referring to? If what I say is false you should be able to sluff it off.

 

[McBell]

Why you worried about it and what sermons are you referring to? If what I say is false you should be able to sluff it off.

Interesting

My apologies We Never Know, it appears you were much closer to the root of it than I gave you credit for.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Interesting

My apologies We Never Know, it appears you were much closer to the root of it than I gave you credit for.

Well, I know I have Eternal Life, what’s going to happen to you when you die?

 

[night912]

“And God said: “This is the sign of the covenant which I make between Me and you, and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: I set My rainbow in the cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant between Me and the earth. It shall be, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the rainbow shall be seen in the cloud; and I will remember My covenant which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh. The rainbow shall be in the cloud, and I will look on it to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth.” And God said to Noah, “This is the sign of the covenant which I have established between Me and all flesh that is on the earth.””
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭9:12-17‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

So.............
..............where's the rain?

 

[night912]

You’re worried about everyone else instead of looking at your own spiritual condition before God.

I'm not the who's posting bible verses as a response to other people's comments. It's easy to show when someone is doing some projection.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Unfortunately you missed the whole message of the Bible. If you want to understand you’ll have to go to God and get that for yourself, otherwise you’ll keep stumbling around in the dark.

No, I understand the Bible far better than you ever will. You have to pretend that it reflects reality. That limits understanding.

 

[Subduction Zone]

When people have a false view of God, I share what He has done for me in hope they will go to
God too and taste for themselves that Lord is good. Why do you keep knocking on my door?

But you only believe that God did anything for you and you seem to know deep down that it was not God's doing. I asked you more than once if you could develop a proper test for your beliefs and you were never able to do so. Tests that involve confirmation bias are not proper tests.

By the way, no one is "knocking on your door". People are only correcting you.

 

[ElishaElijah]

I'm not the who's posting bible verses as a response to other people's comments. It's easy to show when someone is doing some projection.

You can’t understand that the world isn’t gonna be destroyed by a flood? God says what He is gonna do so wouldn’t you rather hear His Word than someone’s opininion?

 

[McBell]

Well, I know I have Eternal Life, what’s going to happen to you when you die?

My plan is to be cremated.
Hopefully my surviving relatives will honour said plan.

 

[McBell]

You can’t understand that the world isn’t gonna be destroyed by a flood? God says what He is gonna do so wouldn’t you rather hear His Word than someone’s opininion?

When are you gonna start presenting his words without your opinions?
I mean, the only reason you have been presenting his words is in support of YOUR opinions...

 

[1213]

So your God is not pro-life. Got it.

By what the Bible tells, God is pro-life for those who are righteous, because:

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23

Evil people have death waiting. But do you think it would be good, if evil people would live eternally and make life eternal suffering for all?

 

[1213]

Like I said, you defeated your own argument. If you never truly died after the death of your body, then what's the problem? ...

The problem is, you have not the right to end anyone’s life, not even the earthly life.

 

[1213]

Why are you ignoring what I said? You're refusing the freedom of the person who is having the abortion. Please address this instead of dodging it.

I am sorry that you don’t seem to understand my answers.

People are free not to become pregnant. If they become pregnant, then there is another life also that has rights, in my opinion. If person is raped and therefore gets pregnant, it is the rapist who has limited the other persons freedom. And it is wrong, but is it right that the baby is punished because of the rapist?

...According to you, "there is no reason for you to have some right, without others having the same right," and yet, you accept the death penalty. You gave the right to kill, via the death penalty, but take that very same right away from the other person....

If I accept the death penalty, then I accept it also for me, in same case, if I do the same crime. For example, I think murder is wrong and person who has murdered, deserves death. If I would murder, I would also deserve death. Giving death penalty is not the same as a murder. Murder is killing person that has done nothing to deserve it.

Still, this does not mean that people should give death penalties, I think people are not righteous enough to be fair judges.

 

[1213]

And this is where you take on the burden of proof. Right now a fetus is not looked upon as a human being. It may be "human" but it is not a human in the legal sense. If you want to change the law the burden of proof is upon you. How would you prove that a fetus has the same rights that people do?

Actually, I should prove “fetus” is a human, then he would automatically have human rights. But, if we can “legally” define “fetus” not human, same can be done to every human that has been born. Or what do you think, what makes you more human than a fetus?

It appears to me that the totalitarian fascists that are leading this world now, are already defining their opposition non-human and taking their rights away, like freedom of speech. It is very sad that it appears that evil truly rules at this moment in this world.

 

[1213]

The God of the Bible is pro-killing many more than just the "unrighteous". He will kill anyone at the drop of a hat for almost no reason at all.

Sorry, I don’t see any intelligent reason to believe so. Please explain why do you believe so?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Actually, I should prove “fetus” is a human, then he would automatically have human rights. But, if we can “legally” define “fetus” not human, same can be done to every human that has been born. Or what do you think, what makes you more human than a fetus?

It appears to me that the totalitarian fascists that are leading this world now, are already defining their opposition non-human and taking their rights away, like freedom of speech. It is very sad that it appears that evil truly rules at this moment in this world.

Sorry,, it does not work that way. Right now the legal standard is that they do not have the same rights that people do. You want to change the law so the burden of proof is upon you.

What makes a human a human and a puppy a puppy? It cannot be just DNA. DNA on its own is just a molecule. It cannot be because humans have a soul since it is unknown if we do have a soul and if we have one when it becomes part of us. In fact it used to be believed, at least in Old Testament times, that the soul entered the body with the first breath.