Is God three beings in one being according to christians on RF?

[F1fan]

Is God three beings in one being according to christians on RF?

God is exactly what fallible believers want it to be. This is why humans have so many gods.

 

[The Crimson Universe]

Good question and, obviously, it is my understanding... God knows.

But as I understand it, the soul is our mind, will and emotions... it is our personality. Our spirit, is the God-part of us that makes us eternal. (I wish I had a better word-construct to explain.) It would look like our physical body but it would be spiritual and not natural.

The spirit is what connects and speaks with God. It is how God speaks to us... spirit to spirit. The soul is how we connect with the physical world.

The two, however are infused as one so it would look like this in picture form for understanding sake. Not the physical heart but rather the verbiage use to express who we are

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The Non-dual Hinduism that i follow, also says the same thing... that the soul is the mind, personality etc. and the spirit is the God-portion. Its remarkable how similar the beliefs of these two religions are.

 

[Kenny]

The Non-dual Hinduism that i follow, also says the same thing... that the soul is the mind, personality etc. and the spirit is the God-portion. Its remarkable how similar the beliefs of these two religions are.

I didn't know! That is quite amazing!

 

[Firelight]

This sounds similar to sosial trinitarianism. In the offical trinity doctrine it is the essence/substance that bind the persons togheter, just like conjoined triples.

I’ve read all your comments on this thread. Are you another preacher attempting to set everyone straight according to your own belief and definitions of words?

Christians don’t all believe the same thing about deity. They don’t all believe in the Holy Trinity as defined 1700 years ago. Mono? Poly? Tri? Who cares other than the nit-pickers? Everyone is free to believe however they desire.

 

[DNB]

Is God three beings in one being according to christians on RF?

Of course not!
I believe that only the Father is God, and that there is absolutely no other divine being in the entire universe, beside the Father.
You have already heard a few trinitarians attempt to substantiate there position on this thread, therefore, I trust that you are aware how convoluted, irrational and non-Biblical their convictions are?
The minute you ascribe deity to any other being or entity, other than the one and only Father, the Creator of all things, your entire theology devolves into a chaotic and deranged system of implausible, and incomprehensible nonsense.

In my opinion, and rationally speaking, there can only be one all-powerful, transcendent, omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent being, single minded, and singularly identified and addressed. Anything else is the epitome of redundancy and confusion.

 

[oldbadger]

Is God three beings in one being?
A very few Christians on RF do sometimes refer to Jesus as 'God'. During my life I have read and heard claims such as 'Jesus' reduced the walls of Jericho' or 'Jesus sent the plagues in to Egypt' .... as if Jesus created the World and all else ever after.

But then they might want to discuss or debate what language Jesus spoke, or what class of person he held in Galilean (or even Judean!) society, or whether he was a blue collar worker, etc

At one moment Jesus is a really mild loving person, the next he is a strutting killing swordsman, the next he's fighting for the poor, but definitely a Right-wing Capitalist!

Is this religious schizophrenia?

 

[firedragon]

But as I understand it, the soul is our mind, will and emotions... it is our personality. Our spirit, is the God-part of us that makes us eternal.

What are the two Hebrew and greek words that represent "soul" and "Spirit"? I ask since you made that distinction.

Thanks in advance.

 

[firedragon]

Of course not!
I believe that only the Father is God, and that there is absolutely no other divine being in the entire universe, beside the Father.
You have already heard a few trinitarians attempt to substantiate there position on this thread, therefore, I trust that you are aware how convoluted, irrational and non-Biblical their convictions are?
The minute you ascribe deity to any other being or entity, other than the one and only Father, the Creator of all things, your entire theology devolves into a chaotic and deranged system of implausible, and incomprehensible nonsense.

In my opinion, and rationally speaking, there can only be one all-powerful, transcendent, omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent being, single minded, and singularly identified and addressed. Anything else is the epitome of redundancy and confusion.

If you believe the father is God and only he is God, what is Jesus? Is he begotten son?

 

[DNB]

If you believe the father is God and only he is God, what is Jesus? Is he begotten son?

Yes, begotten, but by secular or biological means. He only came into existence around 6-4 BC, and it was only then that he became cognizant of his existence.

 

[firedragon]

Yes, begotten, but by secular or biological means. He only came into existence around 6-4 BC, and it was only then that he became cognizant of his existence.

Begotten by God? When you say "secular or biological" its not so clear. Is Jesus gods begotten son? If so, how was he begotten? Did god will him into entering Mary's womb, physically have intercourse with Mary?

 

[DNB]

Begotten by God? When you say "secular or biological" its not so clear. Is Jesus gods begotten son? If so, how was he begotten? Did god will him into entering Mary's womb, physically have intercourse with Mary?

God impregnated her by miraculous means. Jesus is God's begotten son, as no man intervened in the process of Mary's pregnancy, but only God fertilized her egg.
Don't get weird about this, God can cause any material phenomenon to occur, without Him being of any material composition. A man can have a baby if God wants it as such. God did not copulate with anyone, ever. He cannot do so, but He can cause the results of such a relation to occur in anyone. He created Adam from the earth, He did not need to germinate any seed in that process.

 

[firedragon]

God impregnated her by miraculous means. Jesus is God's begotten son, as no man intervened in the process of Mary's pregnancy, but only God fertilized her egg.
Don't get weird about this, God can cause any material phenomenon to occur, without Him being of any material composition. A man can have a baby if God wants it as such. God did not copulate with anyone, ever. He cannot do so, but He can cause the results of such a relation to occur in anyone. He created Adam from the earth, He did not need to germinate any seed in that process.

Nothing weird about clarifying your position. I asked explicitly because you didnt understand my question in the first post. No worries.

If Jesus is the biological or begotten son of God, impregnated by God himself, how come a Son of God is not a God himself? Or did God just will his own Son to be merely human?

 

[Kenny]

What are the two Hebrew and greek words that represent "soul" and "Spirit"? I ask since you made that distinction.

Thanks in advance.

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[firedragon]

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Okay. That's great.

So what are the verses that say "the soul is our mind, will and emotions... it is our personality. Our spirit, is the God-part of us that makes us eternal." with the same words you have cited in the post you linked to?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Kenny]

Okay. That's great.

So what are the verses that say "the soul is our mind, will and emotions... it is our personality. Our spirit, is the God-part of us that makes us eternal." with the same words you have cited in the post you linked to?

Thanks in advance.

The spirit, soul and body is found in 1 Thessalonians 5:23.

The actual breaking down of the three is more comprehensive and is found throughout scriptures and through its different applications.

In other words, our spirit would be found in John 3 and in other places
The soul would be found in Rom 12, James and others
The body is pretty much observable and usually we don't have any questions on that.

If you could be more specific on the questions, I would probably be better at finding the what you are looking for?

Have a wonderful day,

Ken

 

[firedragon]

The spirit, soul and body is found in 1 Thessalonians 5:23.

Pneuma, Psuce, and Swmaa, does not mean "the soul is our mind, will and emotions... it is our personality. Our spirit, is the God-part of us that makes us eternal." like you said.

In other words, our spirit would be found in John 3 and in other places
The soul would be found in Rom 12, James and others
The body is pretty much observable and usually we don't have any questions on that.

If you could be more specific on the questions, I would probably be better at finding the what you are looking for?

Have a wonderful day,

Ken

If you read Matthew, you will see that the body can be killed, but the soul cannot be killed. So there is no interpretation that the soul that cannot be killed is "personality or emotions". Could you tell mw which bible verse your interpretation came from? It is more evident that the soul, or psuchee is more likely "will", the "essence" of self. Read Matthew.

Sorry. I dont mean to dig in too much on your statements/ But there is no biblical interpretation as such. Ill give you an example. You said "Our spirit, is the God-part of us that makes us eternal." but the Gospels itself speaks of "akatharton pneuma" which simply cannot be any part of God or your God-part. Simple, because God cannot be some kind of despicable or evil being.

Anyway, the point is, your interpretation is not biblical, but thought.

 

[DNB]

Nothing weird about clarifying your position. I asked explicitly because you didnt understand my question in the first post. No worries.

If Jesus is the biological or begotten son of God, impregnated by God himself, how come a Son of God is not a God himself? Or did God just will his own Son to be merely human?

Sorry for the confusion.

Because God does not propagate Himself. He does extend his essence of divinity, He cannot become more or less than He was at any given time. For God to give birth to a divine being, after His own essence, means that God can be duplicated in some form, and that His uniqueness an omnipotence as deity is now divided and shared.

The sole significance of the virgin birth, was merely to indicate that the child was born under the auspices of God. It was a sign that God is now about to fulfill His promise of sending a Messiah, and that Jesus was the son of David. Again, God can cause any woman to become pregnant while she remains chaste, and while the seed remains exclusively human. Eve came from the rib of man by God, and Adam from the dust by God, and neither were divine. Mary's egg was fertilized merely by God willing it, and not by Him using divine sperm (of which there is no such thing), to do so.

God cannot create a divine being, for there can only be one all-powerful, omnipotent and omnipresent entity in or outside the universe - for there would be nothing able to distinguish one from the other, and there would never be a need for more than one - one alone is perfect, complete, and capable in every sense..

 

[firedragon]

Sorry for the confusion.

Because God does not propagate Himself. He does extend his essence of divinity, He cannot become more or less than He was at any given time. For God to give birth to a divine being, after His own essence, means that God can be duplicated in some form, and that His uniqueness an omnipotence as deity is now divided and shared.

The sole significance of the virgin birth, was merely to indicate that the child was born under the auspices of God. It was a sign that God is now about to fulfill His promise of sending a Messiah, and that Jesus was the son of David. Again, God can cause any woman to become pregnant while she remains chaste, and while the seed remains exclusively human. Eve came from the rib of man by God, and Adam from the dust by God, and neither were divine. Mary's egg was fertilized merely by God willing it, and not by Him using divine sperm (of which there is no such thing), to do so.

God cannot create a divine being, for there can only be one all-powerful, omnipotent and omnipresent entity in or outside the universe - for there would be nothing able to distinguish one from the other, and there would never be a need for more than one - one alone is perfect, complete, and capable in every sense..

Thats not the question I asked DNB.

 

[metis]

Yeah. But see, no one made the claim that automobiles are spoken of in the Bible. So what you did is a tactic that may work in your mind, but its an absurd equivocation.

Your claim was that one oosia but three is in the bible linguistically, verbatim. So since you claim it, you should have at least one verse that does.

It's a theological concept, much like "apostolic succession" is.

 

[firedragon]

It's a theological concept, much like is "apostolic succession" is.

Exactly.