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Is God three beings in one being according to christians on RF?

Lain

Well-Known Member
What you describe is tritheism

How are you defining that and how does what I said indicate it?

For throughout these posts I have spoken of:

1) The Principle without Principle of All, the Father.
2) The oneness of the divine nature.
3) The unity of operation of the Divine Persons.

Sounds like "one God" to me.
 

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
How are you defining that and how does what I said indicate it?

For throughout these posts I have spoken of:

1) The Principle without Principle of All, the Father.
2) The oneness of the divine nature.
3) The unity of operation of the Divine Persons.

Sounds like "one God" to me.
Sounds like three gods. Tritheism
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Sounds like three gods. Tritheism

What do you mean by that? If you mean that there is a multiplicity of Divine Persons, this is in fact what I just said. As St. John of Damascus said:

"Thus because of the unity in nature, the error of the Greeks in holding that God is many, is utterly destroyed: and again by our acceptance of the Word and the Spirit, the dogma of the Jews is overthrown: and there remains of each party only what is profitable. On the one hand of the Jewish idea we have the unity of God's nature, and on the other, of the Greek, we have the distinction in subsistences and that only."

I agree with him.
 

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
What do you mean by that? If you mean that there is a multiplicity of Divine Persons, this is in fact what I just said. As St. John of Damascus said:

"Thus because of the unity in nature, the error of the Greeks in holding that God is many, is utterly destroyed: and again by our acceptance of the Word and the Spirit, the dogma of the Jews is overthrown: and there remains of each party only what is profitable. On the one hand of the Jewish idea we have the unity of God's nature, and on the other, of the Greek, we have the distinction in subsistences and that only."

I agree with him.
Do you believe the Father, son and he holy spirit is three independent beings/entities who can live apart from each other?
 

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
What do you mean by that? If you mean that there is a multiplicity of Divine Persons, this is in fact what I just said. As St. John of Damascus said:

"Thus because of the unity in nature, the error of the Greeks in holding that God is many, is utterly destroyed: and again by our acceptance of the Word and the Spirit, the dogma of the Jews is overthrown: and there remains of each party only what is profitable. On the one hand of the Jewish idea we have the unity of God's nature, and on the other, of the Greek, we have the distinction in subsistences and that only."

I agree with him.
You agree with him, but not the catholic church
 

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
your original OP doesn't state trinity. so yes god is three states of being in one.

they are called the mind, body, spirit complex
You Are correct. The offical trinity is that God is three persons in one being/substance. That God is only one being.

The offical trinity doctrine do not believe God is three beings. The belief that God is three beings is tritheism
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Do you believe the Father, son and he holy spirit is three independent beings/entities who can live apart from each other?

You agree with him, but not the catholic church

St. John of Damascus is a Doctor of the Catholic Church, agreeing with him in this matter is agreement with the Church, and I can quote official Church teaching which shows that he is in agreement, the supreme of which is the 381 Creed

As for living apart from one another, no, I do not believe that. That is Tritheism or Social "Trinitarianism" (so many names are a psy-op), I do not even believe that those who hold such positions are doctrinally Christian. That is not the Trinitarian position.
 

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
St. John of Damascus is a Doctor of the Catholic Church, agreeing with him in this matter is agreement with the Church, and I can quote official Church teaching which shows that he is in agreement, the supreme of which is the 381 Creed

As for living apart from one another, no, I do not believe that. That is Tritheism or Social "Trinitarianism" (so many names are a psy-op), I do not even believe that those who hold such positions are doctrinally Christian. That is not the Trinitarian position.
Then what do bind the persons togheter according to you?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Yes, I would agree because from the Greek at Acts of the Apostles 17:29 B I find the 'divine being' to be like.
And at Hebrews 1:3 I find .... who 'being' beaming forth....
So, in early (1st century) Christianity the word indicating 'being' as only applied to God.

I am not referring to the Bible.
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Then what do bind the persons togheter?

They have one identical essence (and all that comes with that), are co-eternal, and have a complete unity of operation (that is actions, such as creating the world, there is only one act contemplated in that), and no separation in these things, so they "dwell within one another," as the Lord Jesus said (quoted in my signature) "the Father is in me and I am in the Father," emphasis on "in." The Father always has His Word and His Spirit.

They are utterly one in ways save being Unbegotten, Begotten, and Proceeding, in few words, the relations and manner of their existence.
 

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
They have one identical essence (and all that comes with that), are co-eternal, and have a complete unity of operation (that is actions, such as creating the world, there is only one act contemplated in that), and no separation in these things, so they "dwell within one another," as the Lord Jesus said (quoted in my signature) "the Father is in me and I am in the Father," emphasis on "in." The Father always has His Word and His Spirit.
This sounds similar to sosial trinitarianism. In the offical trinity doctrine it is the essence/substance that bind the persons togheter, just like conjoined triples.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Is God three beings in one being according to christians on RF?
Jesus never taught that.
It’s such a confusing doctrine - “an inscrutable mystery”, as one encyclopedia put it.

What’s currently accepted as mainstream Christendom, bears no resemblance to Christ. Christendom has been part of “the world” since it’s inception, even supporting the world in its conflicts to the point of actually killing their own brother simply due to geography.. (John 15 17-19.) Jesus was quite clear. See Matthew 7:21-23

I say all of this, because to understand the Bible accurately, it’s necessary to have God’s spirit. (Luke 10:21)
But if a group can’t be obedient to God’s own Son, they won’t have God’s blessing and be granted an accurate understanding of His Word.

But not all those professing Christianity follow Christendom’s behavior or have it’s reputation.

Actually, in line with what Revelation 12:9 tells us, we should expect almost all truth - from history to spiritual - to be a target. “Misleading the entire inhabited Earth”? That’s a lot, wouldn’t you say?

To me, Christianity started as Truth, and Jesus always pointed to his Father as the source of knowledge and power.

So the Devil made it a target, to obfuscate Jesus’ teachings. That’s why, when we look at the major branches of Earth’s religions today, we see Christianity with the most varied teachings. I mean, over 30,000 different sects of Christianity alone?

The others have nowhere near that many sects!.
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
This sounds similar to sosial trinitarianism. In the offical trinity doctrine it is the essence/substance that bind the persons togheter, just like conjoined triples.

I just mentioned the essence, and it is not like conjoined triplets for God is not like anything, and with triplets these is not co-eternity or a complete unity of operation, or mutual indwelling, so the comparison falls short (as all eventually do, although they are used briefly as an aid to the mind). All that I said is in fact the official doctrine.
 

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
I just mentioned the essence, and it is not like conjoined triplets for God is not like anything, and with triplets these is not co-eternity or a complete unity of operation, or mutual indwelling, so the comparison falls short (as all eventually do, although they are used briefly as an aid to the mind). All that I said is in fact the official doctrine.
Do believe all the three persons is God but at the same time the Father is the greatest God?
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Do believe all the three persons is God but at the same time the Father is the greatest God?

I believe that all Three Persons have the divine essence, and are all God in this sense. I believe that the Father is rightly said to be greater not by essence but by being the Cause and Origin of the other Persons. The Lord Jesus said "the Father is greater than I" and it is in this sense (the latter sense) that He said it.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
What is the Christian definition of soul and spirit? Is spirit and soul the same thing? If not, then what are the differences?
Good question and, obviously, it is my understanding... God knows.

But :) as I understand it, the soul is our mind, will and emotions... it is our personality. Our spirit, is the God-part of us that makes us eternal. (I wish I had a better word-construct to explain.) It would look like our physical body but it would be spiritual and not natural.

The spirit is what connects and speaks with God. It is how God speaks to us... spirit to spirit. The soul is how we connect with the physical world.

The two, however are infused as one so it would look like this in picture form for understanding sake. Not the physical heart but rather the verbiage use to express who we are

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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Do you believe the Father, son and he holy spirit is three independent beings/entities who can live apart from each other?
In one sense yes, and in another sense no. Only one of them is the ultimate Boss, and "essence" does not mean nor imply they're identical. If they were absolutely the same, we wouldn't be calling them by different names. "Essence" does not mean same but that they relate and or deal with a similar purpose, such as an automobile is more than just a sum of its parts. I gave an example of this philosophical approach in my post #67, so that really should be clear enough. If not, maybe check this out:
Essence - Wikipedia

Anyhow, I'm moving on.
 
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