Is Harris Really Worth Voting For?

[Jimmy]

If she’ll cut support to Israel then yeah

 

[Pogo]

Entirely deranged.

Yes trump is as we keep demonstrating to you.

 

[shunyadragon]

Airports......yep. I've watched several cases of people trying to take loadsamoney both in and out of the USA together with consequences, all on Brit telly programs about your border force agencies.... Early morning viewing here.

And the travellers had ticked all the boxes to declare that the had no such funds on them. Absolutely stupid if they were genuine travellers.

Please don't nail this to Kamala Harris's door.

The above has nothing to do with Harris. Needs explanation

Your venomous pejorative approach to Harris knelling at the alter of Trump explains a lot.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

“It was God alone who prevented the unthinkable from happening” ~ Donald Trump commenting about the attempt on his life.

What an egocentric self serving claim!!!! See above.

Is there anything -- literally anything -- that could lead people to suppose that "God alone" would prevent Trump being killed, but too busy over a nice lunch to give a cow-flap what happened to those kids at Sandy Hook and Uvalde? What kind of rubbish swashes around in the brains of people who can accept that sort of incrompehensible evil?

 

[Ebionite]

Is there anything -- literally anything -- that could lead people to suppose that "God alone" would prevent Trump being killed, but too busy over a nice lunch to give a cow-flap what happened to those kids at Sandy Hook and Uvalde? What kind of rubbish swashes around in the brains of people who can accept that sort of incrompehensible evil?

Who are you to determine what is evil and what isn't?

 

[blü 2]

It must be wonderful for you to be omniscient like that.

“It was God alone who prevented the unthinkable from happening” ~ Donald Trump commenting about the attempt on his life.

I think Trump's survival is more strong evidence that there's no God.

 

[Argentbear]

What did Trump actually lie about today? False accusations have consequences.

Fact check: How Trump uses a deceptive chart to lie about the border

 

[blü 2]

Entirely deranged.

That's Trump exactly.

Did you list the three greatest achievements of Trump's last presidency for me? If so, I must have missed it.

 

[Revoltingest]

Really? You think that's part of the problem? <snickering under my breath>

A hunch.

 

[shunyadragon]

Who are you to determine what is evil and what isn't?

We have strong evolved code of ethics going back to at least the Babylonians and ancient Chinese, which has evolved beyond the advocate of slavery and ancient no hold war guides of ancient scriptures. Slavery is evil today.

 

[shunyadragon]

A hunch.

A Notre Dame Hunch.

 

[Revoltingest]

There is no possible "stick" in the conflict. Israel will not negociate.

Israel has no need to negotiate.
USA supplies money & material to obliterate Gaza.
Why negotiate away their taking that strip of land, eh.

The goal of both sides is to exterminate the other. There are no angels here.

That statement suggests equivalency.
Israel is the big dog, the most powerful in the
region by far. It uses that power to steal, kill,
torture, oppress, & expand.

Both Islam and Judaism are involved. Islam has been involved in world terrorism and brutal ethnic cleansing of other religions,

The largest group of Zionists is Christian.

It is in their constitution and law. Islamic countries have similar restrictions including brutal ethnic cleansing.

Construction of constitutions is irrelevant
compared to action. In this conflict, Israel
is the deadliest actor by far.

Needs explanation. In terms of weapons Israel is very wealthy and can buy anything it wants on the world market,

USA's Christian leaders give Israel
money, weapons, & military aid.

 

[shunyadragon]

Israel has no need to negotiate.
USA supplies money & material to obliterate Gaza.
Why negotiate away their taking that strip of land, eh.

Do you realize supporting Israel since day one when Israel was under siege by the Islamic world. It is all the Presidents and all the Congresses since Day one. You need to explain your picking on Harris here when Trump would take a harder one sided line for Israel. What is your point on questioning Harris support? Do you support the harder line of Trump?

That statement suggests equivalency.
Israel is the big dog, the most powerful in the
region by far. It uses that power to steal, kill,
torture, oppress, & expand.

You need to consider the history of thousands of years of tribal wars. Israel has not always been the Big Dog. Trump takes a much harder one sided line than the Democrats would.

The largest group of Zionists is Christian.

compared to action. In this conflict, Israel
is the deadliest actor by far.

USA's Christian leaders give Israel
money, weapons, & military aid.

The majority of the hardline Christian support for Israel is in Trump's corner.

 

[Revoltingest]

Do you realize supporting Israel since day one when Israel was under siege by the Islamic world. It is all the Presidents and all the Congresses since Day one. You need to explain your picking on Harris here when Trump would take a harder one sided line for Israel. What is your point on questioning Harris support? Do you support the harder line of Trump?

You're missing the point of this thread.
It's not to ignore or defend Trump.
I judge him as worse.
But neither should you blindly support
the not-Trump candidate. Investigate.
Consider. Question. Challenge. .

You need to consider the history of thousands of years of tribal wars. Israel has not always been the Big Dog. Trump takes a much harder one sided line than the Democrats would.

I've considered more than you know.

 

[shunyadragon]

You're missing the point of this thread.
It's not to ignore or defend Trump.
I judge him as worse.
But neither should you blindly support
the not-Trump candidate. Investigate.
Consider. Question. Challenge. .

I do not blindly support anyone, but bringing Harris to the front on the issue does not make sense, unless you are expecting a miracle to resolve a brutal ancient tribal conflict thousands of years old.

It is not even a good question concerning whether one would Harris or Trump.

I've considered more than you know.

It is not reflected in the thread, You only brought up one one narrow issue involving questioning support for Harris

 

[shunyadragon]

If she’ll cut support to Israel then yeah

Harris could not change much considering the overwhelming cart blanche support for Israel in Congress and the hard line extreme view of Conservative Republicans, Israel is powerful and rich enough with world support that Israel is indifferent to any efforts to change.

What could Harris possibly do?

 

[Ebionite]

We have strong evolved code of ethics going back to at least the Babylonians and ancient Chinese, which has evolved beyond the advocate of slavery and ancient no hold war guides of ancient scriptures. Slavery is evil today.

Because society in general should bear the cost of larceny rather than the thief, right? Slavery is a remedy when the thief can't pay restitution.

 

[shunyadragon]

Because society in general should bear the cost of larceny rather than the thief, right? Slavery is a remedy when the thief can't pay restitution.

That is in reality indentured servitude not slavery. The Pentateuch and history makes a clear distinction between indentured servitude and slavery. Slaves are owned, bought and sold like property.

 

[Ebionite]

That's Trump exactly.

Projection.

Trump Honors Afghanistan Troops as ABC, CBS, NBC Morning Shows Ignore Anniversary

Trump paid his respects to the 13 U.S. troops who were killed in Afghanistan, while morning shows on major networks ignored the anniversary.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Ebionite]

That is in reality indentured servitude not slavery.

The difference doesn't affect the point that your solution places the burden unjustly.