ether-ore
Active Member
No-sexual (aka celibacy) would be (is) my choice... sex is over rated anyway. being sexual is like being a crack addict... always looking for the next fix. I like my peace of mind.
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Is Homosexuality a illness? And how to heal?
- Thread starter Servant_of_the_One1
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No-sexual (aka celibacy) would be (is) my choice... sex is over rated anyway. being sexual is like being a crack addict... always looking for the next fix. I like my peace of mind.
Sigh...insults? Well, that really doesn't surprise me coming from someone who bases his opinions on a movie character. I would try to explain what bisexual means but you would just insult some more. I wish you peace.
Sex, at least for me, was a wonderful expression of the love I felt for my partner. It was not about me but about her. But since she has died, I am celibate. I remain so in the memory of her as she was my soul mate. I can only hope that some people have the kind of relationship that we did and know what truly making love means.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
The fact that you regard having any sex at all as having an addiction demonstrates that you have an extremely negative (some may say unnatural) attitude towards sex.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
So, in other words, you have no evidence or reasoning to base this on. If I am wrong, please provide the evidence. As, my "common sense and logic" paint you as being so wrong with unsubstantiated speculation and prejudice, that it's not even funny.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Nope.
Full Definition of INCOMPATIBLE
1: incapable of being held by one person at one time —used of offices that make conflicting demands on the holder
2: not compatible: as
a : incapable of association or harmonious coexistence <incompatible colors>
b : unsuitable for use together because of undesirable chemical or physiological effects<incompatible drugs>
c : not both true <incompatible propositions>
d : incapable of blending into a stable homogeneous mixture
For me, a cure would be, if the patient is able to have sex with the opposite gender. To remove the homosexual urges would be more of a bonus. Afaik, most of the "healed gays" are able to have sex with the opposite gender now, regardless of other urges.
Believe me, there are scientific areas, where I actually know what I am talking about. Homosexuality is not one of them, and I said it in my first sentence. You can generelise all Bahais and muslims from my post, if you want. I give you the advice to not generelise people based on their beliefs, and to not call a whole group of people stupid, if one member says something, that you regard as stupid. There are Bahais and even Muslims (!! :O) who know more about homosexuality, then you do.
And I wrote Bahai into my profile to become popular...
If homosexuals want to manage the condition, they surely would be happy, if science helped them.
Ex Gay therapy being flawed is no proof, that there can't be a better one. 100 years ago, schitzophrenia therapy was flawed and dangerous. I bet, there was a time in science when everyone thought, that schitzophrenia is incurable. Today, patients can live an almost normal life.
I am not saying that we should forcefully convert homosexuals. But some people want to change, they want kids on their own. For me, it would be a handicap, if I was not able to love a woman and have kids with her. I would appreciate, if there was a cure, that would enable for me to be sexually attracted to women.
Do you think you can be "cured" to become gay, if you really wanted?
Ciao
- viole
ether-ore
Active Member
No, I'm just not married (to a woman), so, I see being celibate as incumbent on me in order to keep God's standards.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
We've been over this before. Her case is an extreme outlier, and at no point was changing her gender actually recommended.the best evidence is stephenie robinson, a man years ago who became a woman because the doctor told him that his libido was uncontrollable lust because he was meant to be a woman. gays have uncontrollable lust. hence they are becoming women with the help of religion who knock out the gays before injecting them with trans hormones.
they are less accepted because they do not know how to be men with lust anymore. witness in san francisco, there is so little cruising that we do not remember it anymore.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/transgend...oming-woman-wasnt-even-091427373.html#aVtdiOK
Don't give it much thought. It boggles my mind as to how any doctor signed off on her transition, as it was something she never planned on or wanted, her doctor didn't recommend it, yet she did it anyways. If you read the story, the doctors did not say she had to become a woman to control her lust, there were other psychological disorders, and it cannot be stated enough that gender-transition was not recommended. Hormone therapy was recommended to control what is claimed to uncontrollable sexual urges, but a full gender change was not.
You're going to have to go to Iran to find people that will agree with you, because that is a horrible solution. A gay man, for example, identifies as a man, so why would he want to become a woman? Being in the body of the wrong sex is a terrible and horrible experience. And in places that practice modern psychology and psychiatry, you won't find any doctor who is considered qualified to work with transsexual clients who will endorse a gender-change because the client doesn't want to be gay.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
That all depends on the style of Taoist philosophy. The defined and undefined are all a part of the Tao. What is, is.
chevron1
Active Member
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chevron1
Active Member
true. metaphysical taoism (because wang bi was a founder of the metaphysical school) was state religion that de-emphasized the gods and emphasized rational analysis of the classical texts as metaphysical textbooks, the precursor of science textbooks.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Not one of those options are a gender change. Hormone therapy, though an early step in most treatment plans for transsexuals, does not necessitate gender change, nor is it considered, in and of itself, a gender change. It really makes me wonder how it happened, and what doctors signed off on it, because she herself said she never felt like a woman, never had any plans to live as a woman, and did not have any desires to transition.
Her case is an extreme outlier that does not reflect the experience of those with gender dysphoria, nor should it be looked upon as a basis for educating oneself about the condition. If you want a good general overview of the condition and treatment, read the WPATH Standards of Care.
http://www.wpath.org/uploaded_files/140/files/Standards of Care, V7 Full Book.pdf
leibowde84
Veteran Member
lol. Are you serious with this? Do you actually think that anyone who is sexually active is addicted to sex and always looking for their "next fix"? I would suggest giving it a try, because your view on the subject is obviously based on ignorance. To most sexually active people, it isn't a first priority or anything close to that. It's great, don't get me wrong, but it is also physically healthy, as long as it is done safely. I wouldn't judge others on something you obviously know absolutely nothing about.
chevron1
Active Member
again, her doctor said he was a "classic transsexual". for some, hormone therapy IS a gender change. you are being too specific, too close to a very very strict definition. the doctor is in to make gays into women for the love of god.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
So, if you do intend to get married one day, wouldn't you want to know whether you had good sexual chemistry? I think this is a must, but I'd like to hear your reasoning (beyond what is claimed in the Bible, of course) for not thinking this is a good idea.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
This makes no sense, though. Why would a doctor want to change the way that God made an individual for the love of God? If God made them a woman, wouldn't that be God's intention?
chevron1
Active Member
that's catholic teaching, not all christians think like that. besides, if you were the parent of a gay son and wanted him to have children in the traditional way, you might authorize intervention to make him transgender in mind at least so that he could still have children.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
According to her, she had no desires to transition. She never considered living as a woman. She did not consider herself a woman prior to her doctor saying "hormones or brain surgery." That is not a "classic transsexual,"
In regards to education about gender dysphoria, it's a very poor case to utilize. How a doctor made the step from recommending hormones to control an uncontrollable sex drive to "classic transsexual" is beyond me, especially when she had not expressed any cross gender thoughts or desires up to that point.
And doctor who makes gays into women is a hack-job of a doctor, because sexual orientation and gender identity are not the same things, and they are not inherently related (though there is some overlap).
As I said, if you want information, read the Standards of Care because those are psychologists and psychiatrists who work with transsexuals, transgenders, and gender non-conforming people. No where do they suggest that someone who is homosexual undergo a sex-change procedure.
gsa
Well-Known Member
This is bizarre. Having sex is like crack addiction? This would suggest that you have either never tried sex (and presumably not cocaine base either), or, if you have, that your experience with sexual addiction is well outside the normal parameters for human beings.