Is ISIS a disaster for all muslims?

[Sees]

It took all of 10 seconds to find this and similar commentary. Did you even look?

I am taking a look at these.

 

[sojourner]

Is ISIS a disaster for all muslims?

Yes. Any kind of terrorist act is disaster for everyone.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Is it accurate that you do not find equating "religious fundamentalists" with "haters" as prejudiced and hateful?

If I had 'equated' the two, then that would have been prejudiced, though I'm not sure it would have been hateful.

But I did not equate the two.

 

[Sees]

since i am here , i posted hunderd of post against the groups terrorists, and posted many thread about this , don't ever read once of them ?

I'm glad you are here doing such then.

 

[Pegg]

Them atrocities being committed by ISIS and similar groups are horrifying the non-muslim world.

People will now be suspicious of their muslim neighbours: would they do such things if they thought they could get away with them?

Young muslims leaving peaceful places like Canada to join such groups reinforces the negative impression of islam that the jihadis are producing.

Will things be worse for muslims than they would be without the jihadist groups?

I think the majority of muslims know that murdering/raping & enslaving innocent women and children and slaughtering their fathers is a crime against God and against all moral laws and against the human conscience which is why they would never do it.

I hope that people dont take the view that all muslims would do these things because they dont and they wouldnt.

 

[Nakosis]

Yes. Any kind of terrorist act is disaster for everyone.

Was it a disaster for everyone when the Europeans came to terrorize the Native Americans?

Seems it was beneficial for the Europeans. Force all of the Natives to become Christian, God fearing people.

Seems to me this is how nations are born, through violence. Only after they have ensured their control can they appear to be benevolent.

 

[outhouse]

I think the majority of muslims know that murdering/raping & enslaving innocent women and children and slaughtering their fathers is a crime against God and against all moral laws and against the human conscience which is why they would never do it.

I hope that people dont take the view that all muslims would do these things because they dont and they wouldnt.

While I do agree.

I would not quote the use of reason and logic, against fundamentalism and fanaticism.

Im not sure muslims as a whole are not all followers of fundamentalism and fanaticism to some extent.

The foundation of the religion is that all others are wrong, and your prophets ALL corrupted.

These thoughts promote hatred and resentment, in their own interpretations they kill each other over, and other religions they cannot tolerate in peace.

 

[outhouse]

Was it a disaster for everyone when the Europeans came to terrorize the Native Americans?

.

lets call them Americans.


We don't need to insult Europeans with our past mistakes.

 

[Pegg]

While I do agree.

I would not quote the use of reason and logic, against fundamentalism and fanaticism.

Im not sure muslims as a whole are not all followers of fundamentalism and fanaticism to some extent.

The foundation of the religion is that all others are wrong, and your prophets ALL corrupted.

These thoughts promote hatred and resentment, in their own interpretations they kill each other over, and other religions they cannot tolerate in peace.

but lets be honest, not all muslims are fundamentalists nor fanatic.

There are those who select the peaceful aspects of what is written in the quran and focus their attention on that because that is what their hearts compel them to do. Anyone who truly wants peace will follow a peaceful course and look to the quran to back that mindset. Thats why there are muslims over there being killed by fellow muslims.

And those who are hateful at heart and desire war will find justification in the Quran. That is the unfortunate thing about the Quran... it leaves room for both paths. Those who want war can do so, and those who want peace can do so. Thankfully only a minority are willing to kill and fight...most others would never do such things.

 

[Nakosis]

I think the majority of muslims know that murdering/raping & enslaving innocent women and children and slaughtering their fathers is a crime against God and against all moral laws and against the human conscience which is why they would never do it.

I hope that people dont take the view that all muslims would do these things because they dont and they wouldnt.

According to Yazidi leaders, better to kill the women then let them be enslaved.

Tough choice.

 

[Pegg]

According to Yazidi leaders, better to kill the women then let them be enslaved.

Tough choice.

i don't think we are in a position to judge them until you are actually in their position.

Who knows what we would think if we were the ones about to be taken by a rampaging mob of extremists. At least in the grave they will be safe...thats probably what the men are thinking... i might even think the same thing in that situation.

 

[outhouse]

but lets be honest, not all muslims are fundamentalists nor fanatic.

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I disagree.

I said, to some extent.

They think as a foundation of their core beliefs, that all your prophets are wrong and in error. With no evidence at all.


That is factually fundamentalism and fanaticism

 

[Pegg]

I disagree.

I said, to some extent.

They think as a foundation of their core beliefs, that all your prophets are wrong and in error. With no evidence at all.


That is factually fundamentalism and fanaticism

hey, dont you believe the same thing about those who believe the bible to be a book of historical fact?

doesn't that make you a fanatic and a fundamentalist ??

 

[Nakosis]

lets call them Americans.


We don't need to insult Europeans with our past mistakes.

Our lives, we are living off the fruits of terrorism and slavery. Conquest and cheap labor.

I just don't think we can fix the world. Things just happen to be relatively easy in our lifetimes. Just an "upswing" in the cycle that's bound to turn down at some point.

I hope to be wrong but I don't think we human beings have changed that much. People take advantage of the situation they find themselves in.

Kill the men because they'll always be a threat. Kill the boys because they will be a threat to your children. Spare the women because you're a humanitarian.

I'll go home tonight, buy whatever sounds good at the moment. Wife and kids all doing well. Have a new grandson, go home and make him laugh.

Where and when I was born, things I had no choice in, make me the better, moral person?

Any judgement I pass seems a bit hypocritical.

 

[Nakosis]

i don't think we are in a position to judge them until you are actually in their position.

Who knows what we would think if we were the ones about to be taken by a rampaging mob of extremists. At least in the grave they will be safe...thats probably what the men are thinking... i might even think the same thing in that situation.

Yes, who knows who we would have been in other circumstances?

I don't condone violence or slavery. I just enjoy the fruits of it.

 

[outhouse]

hey, dont you believe the same thing about those who believe the bible to be a book of historical fact?

doesn't that make you a fanatic and a fundamentalist ??

Yes I do, both groups make claims appealing to ignorance.

 

[Pegg]

Yes I do, both groups make claims appealing to ignorance.

right, so does that mean that you are going to go on a rampaging killing spree?

 

[Nakosis]

While I do agree.

I would not quote the use of reason and logic, against fundamentalism and fanaticism.

Im not sure muslims as a whole are not all followers of fundamentalism and fanaticism to some extent.

The foundation of the religion is that all others are wrong, and your prophets ALL corrupted.

These thoughts promote hatred and resentment, in their own interpretations they kill each other over, and other religions they cannot tolerate in peace.

They believe, ISIS, they will restore the Caliphate, Jesus will convert to Islam and they will rule the Islamic world from Jerusalem. Muslim prophecy?

News report with no references...

 

[outhouse]

right, so does that mean that you are going to go on a rampaging killing spree?

No that is the muslims.

These terrorist reflect the religion as a whole. You cannot separate the two.

Christianity has extreme groups as well, but I do not see them committing anywhere near the amount of barbaric acts against humanity as muslims. Against education and knowledge yes. But again not as bad as Islamic countries that are still fighting for women's rights.

And quit throwing rocks inside your glass house, you fight education and knowledge to some extent.

 

[metis]

I just wish that ISIS was the only radical Islamic group.