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Is ISIS a disaster for all muslims?

outhouse

Atheistically
I just wish that ISIS was the only radical Islamic group.

Exactly.

Due to the fundamentalism and fanaticism in methodology required to follow the religion, terrorism, is only a few steps away from the common follower.

When one carries extreme beliefs, extremism is not far away.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I know that the stories in the book of Joshua are fictional, but I always puzzled what the imagination of religious zealotry would make up those stories of slaughter and rape. It's like time travel. Maybe they were real history, and today's events show what Joshua's army looked like, exactly? It's like modern reporters telling the real-time events of the Old Testament, just a different version of the same sort of warrior mentality of what religion is. Maybe it really did happen, consider we're seeing it live.
 
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outhouse

Atheistically
didn't you just say it was 'fundamentalists' ?

Anyone can be a fundamentalist. Even athiets

Yes the term can be perverted by anyone.

I provided examples to keep it in context.


YEC is an example of severe fundamentalism and fanaticism for Christianity. fighting most all modern education :facepalm:

Terrorism is an example of muslim severe fundamentalism and fanaticism :facepalm:


The advancement of education and knowledge is fundamentalism and fanaticism for atheist :yes:
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Many of my neighbors are African Muslims. No, I'm not afraid of being attacked by them. They're mostly just annoying. ISIS probably has ties to American intelligence like Al-Qaeda. I may not like Islam as a religion, just as I don't like a number of religions. but I judge people as individuals.
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
Them atrocities being committed by ISIS and similar groups are horrifying the non-muslim world.

People will now be suspicious of their muslim neighbours: would they do such things if they thought they could get away with them?

Young muslims leaving peaceful places like Canada to join such groups reinforces the negative impression of islam that the jihadis are producing.

Will things be worse for muslims than they would be without the jihadist groups?

The majority of those victims are muslims, so how can we see ISIS as something good ?

I don't know if people in Canada are suspicious of their neighbours like you say, but the war is happening in Irak and Syria anyway, not in Canada.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
evolution 'theory'

Just a theory, not a fact.

As what has been explained many many times, "theory" in this context contains a mixture of axioms ("facts"), theorems, and hypotheses. "Evolution" is just common sense-- all things change over time, and this must include and does include genes.

The only obstacle to understanding that is for one to take a literalist interpretation of the creation accounts, which makes no sense with what we now know today, especially since there are alternative interpretations.
 

Smart_Guy

...
Premium Member
Them atrocities being committed by ISIS and similar groups are horrifying the non-muslim world.

People will now be suspicious of their muslim neighbours: would they do such things if they thought they could get away with them?

Young muslims leaving peaceful places like Canada to join such groups reinforces the negative impression of islam that the jihadis are producing.

Will things be worse for muslims than they would be without the jihadist groups?

ISIS threats the Muslim world way much more than it does the non Muslim world. To non Muslims, the threat is death, but to Muslims, it is death and reputation ruining.
 

Looncall

Well-Known Member
The majority of those victims are muslims, so how can we see ISIS as something good ?

I don't know if people in Canada are suspicious of their neighbours like you say, but the war is happening in Irak and Syria anyway, not in Canada.

There are muslims living among us and some of them are known to have travelled overseas to fight with ISIS.

Should one be worried about what might happen if they manage to return to Canada?

Should one be worried about the influences here that led them to join that fight?

There have already been terror plots hatched here. Fortunately, they were discovered in time.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Them atrocities being committed by ISIS and similar groups are horrifying the non-muslim world.

People will now be suspicious of their muslim neighbours: would they do such things if they thought they could get away with them?

Young muslims leaving peaceful places like Canada to join such groups reinforces the negative impression of islam that the jihadis are producing.

Will things be worse for muslims than they would be without the jihadist groups?


ISIS is a disaster for the world as a whole. While practically every human demonstrates this to some degree, ISIS are a particularly poigniant reminder that we are still in the earliest stages of civilisation.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
ISIS is a disaster for the world as a whole. While practically every human demonstrates this to some degree, ISIS are a particularly poigniant reminder that we are still in the earliest stages of civilisation.
We are not. They are. It's the trailing edge of our advance. As a whole, we've evolved beyond that. The problem is that those with a higher consciousness are not drawn to power. That's the conundrum.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
evolution 'theory'

Just a theory, not a fact.

You are confusing the types of theory that exist.

The theory you refer to means: "a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something."

But the theory in the 'theory of evolution' means: "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."
 
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