is islam 'really' peaceful?

[outhouse]

this doesnt change the fact he isnt worshipped.


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worship definition.

3.love somebody deeply: to love, admire, or respect somebody or something greatly and perhaps excessively or unquestioningly.


It fits the definition, no matter how you want to word it.

 

[Estro Felino]

what am i suppose to say? this doesnt change the fact he isnt worshipped.
it is their fault that they cant control themselves. it is their fault they dont think enough, it is their fault they arent theologically balanced, it is their fault that they see themselves as the only defender of dignity of a prophet as if god alone who is the creator of everything, owner of the judgement day, isnt enough for that.

precisely. prophets are the ones who teach God's law. They are not gods

 

[outhouse]

precisely. prophets are the ones who teach God's law. They are not gods

Mary was not a god, but a survey done at the Vatican showed Mary was worshipped more then Jesus.


Go to any latin american country and tell me Mary is not worshipped.

 

[ametist]

worship definition.

3.love somebody deeply: to love, admire, or respect somebody or something greatly and perhaps excessively or unquestioningly.


It fits the definition, no matter how you want to word it.

*sigh* you picked the 3rd definition of worship from your dictionary. you may want to read the 1st. then perhaps you will get some chance to see what i meant in my other posts.

 

[Estro Felino]

Mary was not a god, but a survey done at the Vatican showed Mary was worshipped more then Jesus.


Go to any latin american country and tell me Mary is not worshipped.

Mary was made of flesh and blood. So it's not my fault if people worship her, a human being, as if she was a goddess.

Mary is a model to follow.

 

[outhouse]

*sigh* you picked the 3rd definition of worship from your dictionary. you may want to read the 1st. then perhaps you will get some chance to see what i meant in my other posts.

the 3rd is still a definition.

 

[outhouse]

Mary was made of flesh and blood. So it's not my fault if people worship her, a human being, as if she was a goddess.

Mary is a model to follow.

one does not have to be a god/ess to be worshipped.


It is not a prerequisite

 

[ametist]

the 3rd is still a definition.

it is but not in theological sense and we are talking about theology.
even if OP used it in non theological sense, still i gave my answer to it in my post saying ' it is their fault if they arent seeing the elephant next to their noses'
anyway, as usual.. the truth is somewhere out there.

 

[Estro Felino]

one does not have to be a god/ess to be worshipped.


It is not a prerequisite

well...I could worship you as if you were a god.
But that wouldn't make you a god either.

 

[paarsurrey]

well...I could worship you as if you were a god.
But that wouldn't make you a god either.

I agree with you.

Jesus was a Jew and never believed that he was a literal god or son of god; but Paul, in his absence, and later the Church made Jesus a god or son of god.

That does not make Jesus god or son of god .

Regards

 

[groves200]

Well the situation in Europe is getting out of control. Recently Sweden introduced a law, that criminalizes the criticism of Islam. I know Sweden is a different country from Finland, but how far is Finland from adopting the same law? Especially with the never stopping Muslim Illegal Immigration and astronomical birth rates of Muslims.
Sharia in Sweden: New Law Criminalizes Criticism of Islam | Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs

the police look in the opposite direction to any Muslim related troubles, same as they do for the gypsies unless the trouble is caused by a native Finnish citizen then there is a huge fine or prison. The government here favours outsiders for whatever reasons

 

[LuisDantas]

the police look in the opposite direction to any Muslim related troubles, same as they do for the gypsies unless the trouble is caused by a native Finnish citizen then there is a huge fine or prison. The government here favours outsiders for whatever reasons

How interesting.

Are the reasons widely known? Is it stated whether that is intentional?

 

[outhouse]

we are talking about theology.
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Is worship used outside theology

 

[outhouse]

well...I could worship you as if you were a god.
But that wouldn't make you a god either.

One does not have to be a god to be worshipped.

because someone worships something or someone does not make it a god

 

[groves200]

How interesting.

Are the reasons widely known? Is it stated whether that is intentional?

ask any Finnish person what the police do when you *acidently* fall in to a gypsies knife 7 times I don't know why the favour them.. may be because their scared? no idea.. we have a beautiful country but then we have 'outsiders' who destroy it.

 

[Sabour]

Almost all reverts to Islam had the same initial thought as addressed in the OP. They also didn't want to meet with a muslim to stay alive. A good example on this is joshua evans amd yusuf estes. If you are seriously looking for answers about Islam try to search about it properly. For example, your first sentence is all wrong. We worship Allah, the only One. We don't worship any human.

 

[ametist]

Is worship used outside theology

yes. the word worship can be used outside of theology. as in the 3rd definition of your dictionary. it might even be used to indicate great admiration.but we know OP meant the theological meaning. even if he didnt we have the explanations for it in other posts. i am sure you can backtrace them if you ever need.

 

[outhouse]

yes. the word worship can be used outside of theology. as in the 3rd definition of your dictionary. it might even be used to indicate great admiration.but we know OP meant the theological meaning. even if he didnt we have the explanations for it in other posts. i am sure you can backtrace them if you ever need.

Your not getting it.

You think and state you don't worship allah, and in your mind you see only this, I believe you are sincere.

But that's not what the rest of the world sees, we view you as worshipping him, despite your claims.


christians don't claim to worship mary, but they do.

 

[groves200]

may be i used the wrong word worship? but it's pretty close I think.. his name is up just about as often as the word Allah.. and whoever disrespects muhammad near any Muslims.. well.. who knows what happens but I imagine they won't be let it go..

they can take their religion as seriously as they like but that doesn't mean everyone else has to, islam is a religion yet we are called racist when we say anything bad about it, is islam a race? and by bad i mean ANYTHING that even slightly is offending it's taken as a big deal and it is in some countries illegal to speak anything negative towards islam but so often times it is totally ok for muslims to gather up on the streets protesting against the very country that welcomed them to live and work there.

There is like I said many many good Muslim people but it really appears that there is more bad than good. Well i'm not even sure what a good muslim is? someone that doesn't ant to kill me because i don't believe in allah? someone who doesn't think everyone in the world should turn to islam or burn in hell? someone who doesn't support stoning? I don't know... someone tell me what a good muslim is?

 

[ametist]

Your not getting it.

You think and state you don't worship allah, and in your mind you see only this, I believe you are sincere.

But that's not what the rest of the world sees, we view you as worshipping him, despite your claims.


christians don't claim to worship mary, but they do.

you are genious at confusing yourself :-D