Thermos aquaticus
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The assertion is that God exists, and it lacks evidence.
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Is it "an assertion that Atheism is correct"?
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The assertion is that God exists, and it lacks evidence.
Subduction Zone
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Sorry, if God was evident there would be no debate. And if God was evidence there would be clear evidence. Gravity is evident and one can easily show the evidence for it. I can't think of anything that is evident that is not supported by endless evidence. Your claim is incorrect and your logic is amazingly faulty.
Thermos aquaticus
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Sorry, but attaching "it's self evident" to a belief does not make it true. You need to present evidence.
Beliefs require evidence, and lacking such evidence there is justification for dismissing the belief.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
All science/s are based on evident/s to solve the non-evident/s. Right, please?
Regards
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Rats, there go my plans to buy a Ferrari. I was going to use the line "I am a multi-millionaire, it is self-evident". Surly with logic like that they will at least let me take one out for a test drive.
Define "disbelieve."
Given the lack of evidence, weak atheism -- lack of belief -- is the default position.
I think a positive conclusion like "there is no God," based on no evidence; on nothing, is questionable.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Poorly worded. In the sciences one finds evidence and uses it to construct hypotheses. Given enough time a scientific idea may be "self evident" but it was never that way at the beginning.
So why are you not finding evidence for your version of God, who for some reason does not like his middle letter. Odd God. Or should I say -dd G-d?+
paarsurrey
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Not the null hypothesis. Why didn't you read the article I linked? Why didn't you read my post? Is English your first language? Simple posts seem to give you trouble at times.
stvdv
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27 jun 2018 stvdv 013 20
Is it an assertion that Islam is correct, please?
Is it an assertion that Islam is a religion, belief system, so per definition "not a fact" just a belief??
Do you agree that you can not prove that God exists?
Can you admit that this is bugging you big time?
Bugging you so much that you try to convince the whole world?
In a desperate final attempt to get rid of your own insecurity?
Solution is simple:
Keep on believing what you like to believe
Stop trying to get others to believe the same way as you believe
As long as you see fault in others, you see fault, so you feel fault
If you want to remove your own fault feeling
you must stop "seeing fault", even stop "thinking fault"
In Islam they call this "Peace"
Actually it is this simple, my own experience
I hope you get your problem solved
When you solve your problem: Is it an assertion that Islam is correct, please?
You have solved your question: Is it an assertion that Atheism is correct, please?
Is it an assertion that Islam is correct, please?
Is it an assertion that Islam is a religion, belief system, so per definition "not a fact" just a belief??
Do you agree that you can not prove that God exists?
Can you admit that this is bugging you big time?
Bugging you so much that you try to convince the whole world?
In a desperate final attempt to get rid of your own insecurity?
Solution is simple:
Keep on believing what you like to believe
Stop trying to get others to believe the same way as you believe
As long as you see fault in others, you see fault, so you feel fault
If you want to remove your own fault feeling
you must stop "seeing fault", even stop "thinking fault"
In Islam they call this "Peace"
Actually it is this simple, my own experience
I hope you get your problem solved
When you solve your problem: Is it an assertion that Islam is correct, please?
You have solved your question: Is it an assertion that Atheism is correct, please?
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Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Good grief!!!!! Do you have no ability to understand what people are posting to your threads??????
Atheism is a lack of belief in an assertion that a god exists.
If the god or gods the particular atheist does not have a belief in do not exist, then the atheist is correct in not believing in them. If the god in question does exist then the atheist is not correct. It is safe to assume they do not until there is sufficient evidence to support the claim in question. Therefore, atheism is the correct stance to take.
This pesky grammar pedant wants to know what "it" refers to.
wandering peacefully
Which way to the woods?
Atheism is spelled with a small a within a sentence. You are trying too hard to assume what it is instead of just accepting what "atheists" tell you what atheism means in the most accepted terms.
Don't worry so much about it. Atheists are not trying to take over the world in a new world order and will not slay at the stake all who choose to "believe" in Allah, G_d , gods, santas, unicorns, ufos nor Bigfoot believers.
We just choose to live our ethical lives regardless of gods.
We don't "hate" G_d/gods/Allah any more than we hate leprechauns. We just don't find any viable reason to believe they exist.
So you may rest easy friend. Just do unto others as you would have done unto you and you and everyone else will be just fine.
God may or may not exist naturally, but until we uncover evidence for Him, there is no logical reason to believe.
Feel free to substitute "pink unicorns" or "flying saucers" for God in the above statement, if that will make my meaning clearer.
Your father and mother are tangible. You can see, touch and hear them. Your belief in them is evidence based.
God is not tangible. there is no evidence on which to form a logical belief.
Evident, by definition, requires evidence.
Perhaps you mean obvious, intuitive or innate.
If belief in God were intuitive or innate I would expect it to be universal. I'd expect almost all people, everywhere, to believe in a similar God.
They do not.
He does not have that attribute. Your belief is enculturated, not innate or obvious. I assume you were taught this as a child, before you'd developed any mental firewalls, before you were capable of logic or critical thinking. You grew up in a society where everyone believed this. When you finally came into communication with people who believed differently, it seemed aberrant and irrational to you.
This is wrong. Atheism is pegged only to lack of tangible evidence. Belief in God is taught.
whirlingmerc
Well-Known Member
Yes, without proof it would be an assertion
The bald statement alone would be an assertion
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
Is what an assertion that atheism is correct?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Yes, his English skills are a bit lacking.
Of course it is not an incorrect assertion to state that without evidence the correct belief is that of atheism.
Let's look at an example: Without evidence it is correct to not believe in leprechauns. "Aleprechaunism" is the correct belief. One does not believe in leprechauns without valid evidence.
I find atheism is a religion. A religion in that it adheres to the dogmatic view that there is No God.
Since that can Not be proven, it is the 'exercise of faith' in the non-existence of God.
Why don't we see anyone trying to convince, or fight over, the existence of Santa Claus because everyone knows he does Not exist, so why do atheists try to convince, or fight over something they ' know ' is Not real.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Sorry, that is not a dogmatic view. There is no dogma in atheism. Show valid evidence and an atheist will change his mind.
is your lack of belief in leprechauns due to dogma?