Is it important to know if God is real or not?

[themadhair]

But would we not need to prove that God exists first before doing any experiments to see how God works?

I agree with what you are saying here rojse but for a very different reason.

In mathematics there are often propositions that, if proven, could tell us a lot about various mathematical branches. The proof of such propositions, showing precisely why they are true, often tells us much much more that the original proposition does.

If god were to be proven to exist I think the proof itself would reveal much more than the proposition of ‘god exists’ ever could.

 

[idea]

Is it improtant to know if God is real or not?

Is it important to know if the charity organization you just donated to is real or not?

Is it important to know if the president is a criminal or not?

Is it important to know if your spouse loves you or not?

of coarse!

 

[idea]

If god were to be proven to exist I think the proof itself would reveal much more than the proposition of ‘god exists’ ever could.

I agree. The journey to God, for each individual who decides to travel that route, reveals so much.

 

[themadhair]

The journey to God, for each individual who decides to travel that route, reveals so much.

I would like to emphasise that this is not really what my point was about.

 

[idea]

I would like to emphasise that this is not really what my point was about.

Call it a "branch".

 

[themadhair]

Or a hijack.

 

[Jeremiah]

I agree with what you are saying here rojse but for a very different reason.

In mathematics there are often propositions that, if proven, could tell us a lot about various mathematical branches. The proof of such propositions, showing precisely why they are true, often tells us much much more that the original proposition does.

If god were to be proven to exist I think the proof itself would reveal much more than the proposition of ‘god exists’ ever could.

For all we know, the objectification of "God" (including the process of), could, in fact, be a mistake. I think, it may be more prudent to proceed not with thoughts of reward, but instead for convalescence the soul. I feel, we should gauge the importance by the need to take the journey over treasures (treasure being that which is beyond need) to be earned.

 

[McBell]

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Is it important to know if the charity organization you just donated to is real or not?

Is it important to know if the president is a criminal or not?

Is it important to know if your spouse loves you or not?

of coarse!

To you perhaps.
Or perhaps not.


however, that is besides the point.
For one looksie at the number of people who are scammed by con artists clearly shows that people are not interested in knowing and obviously do not believe it important to know.

Seems it is a bit of human nature to ignore truth and facts for what one wants to be true.

How many scam artists have been exposed (some even flat out admitting) as being fakes/frauds and people still send them money?

 

[McBell]

For all we know, the objectification of "God" (including the process of), could, in fact, be a mistake. I think, it may be more prudent to proceed not with thoughts of reward, but instead for convalescence the soul. I feel, we should gauge the importance by the need to take the journey over treasures (treasure being that which is beyond need) to be earned.

or worse, a flat out fraud.

 

[Jeremiah]

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Is it important to know if the charity organization you just donated to is real or not?

Is it important to know if the president is a criminal or not?

Is it important to know if your spouse loves you or not?

of coarse!

Are you saying we need to know if "God" is malevolent or not?

 

[dogsgod]

God who?

 

[Jeremiah]

God who?

God.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Is it important to prove or disprove the existence of God? Why or why not?

As important as anything which is impossible I guess.

 

[Storm]

Apologies for taking so long to respond.

It's a valid question, Storm. Honestly,to say all knowledge is worth having is to say all knowledge is beneficial. Whether or not that is true I don't know. We could have done, in my opinion, without allot of the war knowledge we've developed. So it can not be so broad as to say all knowledge is worth having when there may be some knowledge that is not worth having. I know personally there are somethings that I wish I had never come to known.

You raise a good point, but I still maintain my position. There are things I wish I didn't know, as well, but even they have value.

So you consider "innocence" the price of knowledge? And that knowledge is always "worth" more then innocence? Then I suppose that when a rape victim's innocence is taken the knowledge gained is worth it.

I would not agree with the underlined statement.

The statement, "All knowledge is worth having" is an assumption. We do not have all knowledge and have no clue whether it is all worth having or not.

I'm not sure "assumption" is an accurate term. Ideal, maybe.

 

[Jeremiah]

Apologies for taking so long to respond.

You raise a good point, but I still maintain my position. There are things I wish I didn't know, as well, but even they have value.


I would not agree with the underlined statement.


I'm not sure "assumption" is an accurate term. Ideal, maybe.

"I would not agree with the underlined statement. "

I don't agree with it either. I don't believe the arrival of knowledge always means lost of innocence.

 

[Jeremiah]

Apologies for taking so long to respond.

You raise a good point, but I still maintain my position. There are things I wish I didn't know, as well, but even they have value.


I would not agree with the underlined statement.


I'm not sure "assumption" is an accurate term. Ideal, maybe.

"There are things I wish I didn't know, as well, but even they have value."

But was it worth it? Simply because something has value that does not mean it is worth the price paid.

Moving to the fireside; what is the value of not knowing? It seems to me that, some knowledge may not be worth knowing; some knowledge might even have greater value when it is unknown.

 

[Storm]

"There are things I wish I didn't know, as well, but even they have value."

But was it worth it? Simply because something has value that does not mean it is worth the price paid. Moving to the fireside; what is the value of not knowing? It seems to me that, some knowledge may not be worth knowing; some knowledge might even have greater value when it is unknown.

I don't think the comparison is implicit in the quote.

 

[Storm]

To get back to the topic, proof of God, one way or the other would have temendous value.

 

[Jeremiah]

To get back to the topic, proof of God, one way or the other would have temendous value.

It all seem a bit materialistic to me, Storm. Surely there has got to be a better reason then gains. That would seem to reduce, the whole sum of it, to a whim of lust.

 

[BucephalusBB]

Is it important to prove or disprove the existence of God?

To whom?