Is It Time For The 25th Admendment?

[Audie]

Oh Audie!!!!
Kamala is NOT a fraudster, cheater etc, and with no convictions at all. ........

That must be so irritating!

Neither was Neville Chamberlin

 

[Revoltingest]

You think shes going to be adequate to the task?

As much so as most other losers who've held the job.
In particular, I expect she won't stage a coup if ever
running for re-election.
Why do you believe she's so bad though?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Oh I'm sure the freak out will be quite apparent when the election results come out in November. I have a feeling it'll be something like this.....

Hopefully MAGA will be able to control themselves this time and won't throw a massive tantrum and attempt another insurrection because they can't deal with their feelings.

You really don't need to cry. Here's a tissue.

Great attempt at projection! Just superb!

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

You think shes going to be adequate to the task?

No single person can ever be adequate to such a task! Even kings need their many ministers and secretaries. The question then becomes, can she cobble together a cabinet and advisers that will provide her the support she needs to cope with the task?

Trump's abject failure at that resulted in the most tumultuous, chaotic administration of my lifetime, and I was born during Truman's (33) administration -- so Biden's is my 14th!

And Biden has assembled an administration that, despite his obvious decline, is keeping the government running quite smoothly, thank you very much.

 

[oldbadger]

Neither was Neville Chamberlin

Mr Chamberlain was a gentleman and very good politician.

However, Mr Trump is no gentleman....and clearly he's a fascist would-be dictator.

 

[LuisDantas]

Mr Chamberlain was a gentleman and very good politician.

However, Mr Trump is no gentleman....and clearly he's a fascist would-be dictator.

So true.

Also, Neville Chamberlain's reputation has arguably suffered from unfair criticism and accusations. He was in an impossible situation and tried real hard to make the best of it.

It is not at all clear that anyone else would have done any better.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

I actually liked Vance's book, Hillbilly Elegy. What ever happened to it's author? Where'd he go?

He's out getting a diet Mountain Dew: Internet Slams J.D. Vance for 'Cringe' Diet Mountain Dew Joke: 'Alienated Every Voter Base'

As I stated she may have been the best qualified woman. Biden picked her(a woman) because that was a promise he made to trying get the nomination.
IOW... You do this for me, (give him the nomination) and I do this for you, (pick a woman for VP.)
Look at the past of Bidens 2020 campaign promises...

"Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden committed Sunday to picking a woman for his vice president if he were to win the party’s nomination."

"Biden also said that he would try to make his Cabinet reflect the demographics of the country and would choose a black woman to serve on the Supreme Court if a vacancy were to open during his presidency"

Do they reflect DEI for VP and the Supreme Court? In a way they do.
Or he just said them to get the nomination/votes and it worked.
I'm not against females being in leadership posistions. The talk was why was a female(her) was picked. A female was picked because of a trying to get the nomination promise.

As I stated she may have been the best qualified woman. Biden picked her(a woman) because that was a promise he made to trying get the nomination.
IOW... You do this for me, (give him the nomination) and I do this for you, (pick a woman for VP.)

You seem to object to this. Progressives want to see more diversity in government and elsewhere and believe that there are qualified people of all genders, races, ethnicities, and sexual preference for any job, so let's find more of them and make these institutions resemble the general public.

Biden had to fulfill his nomination promise to pick a woman if given the nomination or even his own party would have shunned him.

You imply that Biden didn't want to pick a woman, that he was pressured to do so. If he's like me, that's what he WANTED to do.

Why not make it the same with the presidency.
If the pres is a dem, have a repub VP
If the pres is a repub, have a dem VP

For the same reason you don't put someone in your will and tell them about it. For the same reason you don't hire your competitor's son and make him a principal in your business.

However I can understand all the frustration in the Trump camp. They spent many millions campaigning against Biden. Now with Biden dropping out all that money was spent for nothing.

Money was also spent promoting Trump. Money spent trashing Biden was wasted. But the opposite is true for the Democrats. Any money spent promoting Biden was wasted, and any spent on pointing out why Trump is unfit to be president will help Harris and the Democrats.

So the possible candidate out of a couple hundred million just coincidentally happened to check the pc boxes.

No, not coincidentally. By design, and many approve of the choice.

As others have said, Biden ran on that promise, was elected in part for making it, and has kept it. @Guitar's Cry said it well: "She was picked as a qualified woman. The "DEI" bit is specifically targeted towards minority hires in order to suggest they are unqualified and hired ONLY because of their minority status. Being qualified defies that narrative."

And not just his VP. As you likely know, Biden's only Supreme Court appointee was a black woman. What you might not know is that with the help of the Democratic Senate, he has been packing the courts with similar looking people. From Senate confirms 200th Biden judge as Democrats tout "major milestone" :

"The Senate marked the milestone after its approval of Krissa Lanham on Tuesday and with the vote to confirm Angela Martinez on Wednesday, both to seats on the federal district court in Arizona. With their confirmations, Mr. Biden has placed 42 judges on the U.S. courts of appeals, 155 judges on the U.S. district courts and two on the Court of International Trade. He also named Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court in 2022, a history-making nomination as she became the first Black woman to serve on the nation's highest court."

You think shes going to be adequate to the task?

Sure. Every Democrat who ran for office from Bill Clinton through Gore, Kerry, Hillary, Obama, and Biden have been adequate to the task. They're more or less all off the same mold, and their choices as president were or would have been a lot alike - a steady hand promoting both business and the middle class and protecting the weak.

We don't know if he was forced out by the party elite putting the party before the country but my opinion is yes.

And what would be the mechanism for forcing Biden out against his will?

the 25th Admendment is used to remove him for office.

That's a Republican dream. The Democrats aren't interested.

Many (hopefully most) on the left don't care what the Republicans want or suggest. The Democrats are coming to see that they are the only defenders of the Constitution, church-state separation, egalitarianism, and the rule of law, and that being the enemy of all of these, the Republicans are enemies of the country.

When I was born in the middle of the last century, the Eisenhower was president and Republicans were seen as the loyal opposition, but today, they simply should not be trusted or even listened to except to monitor their activities.

 

[fantome profane]

Neither was Neville Chamberlin

So strange that you mention Chamberlin and think that is somehow supports whatever point you are trying to make.

Neville Chamberlin's great "sin" is that he failed to recognize the danger of rising fascism in the world. The lesson we should learn from him is not to underestimate the danger and not to allow it to take root. We need to fight fascism with everything we have as soon as it we see the first signs.



What was your point?

 

[oldbadger]

So true.

Also, Neville Chamberlain's reputation has arguably suffered from unfair criticism and accusations. He was in an impossible situation and tried real hard to make the best of it.

It is not at all clear that anyone else would have done any better.

Absolutely.
I'm reminded of how many politicians wanted to get yet another deal from Hitler even after our retreat from Dunkirk. Lord Halifax comes to mind.