Is it wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin?

[LuisDantas]

Now, to be clear, I am not questioning the right to spread this nonsense. I understand freedom of expression and its importance. But just because something is lawful that does not mean it is right.

Freedom of expression can't support itself alone. It must be coupled with responsibility for what one expresses.

Promoting the opinion that homosexuality is wrong, shouldn't be acted upon, or is unlawful and/or sinful causes harm to real people, therefore it is wrong.

It is really a very basic matter of civil rights and respect for personal dignity, that comes before, above and beyond any considerations for law, religious doctrine or cultural tradition. One ought not to find hurting others too normal. That's very much the essence of it, and the deciding reason why homosexuality ought not be spoken ill of.

 

[Magic Man]

There's a lot more than religion out there making people blind, you know

Sure, but you've gotta admit religion does a really good job of it, at least as good as anything else, if not better.

You make this sound so normal.

Make what sound normal? The fact that a religious person is blinded by their religious beliefs? It is fairly normal.

 

[JMorris]

top 2 causes of blindness (in no particular order):

sharp pointy sticks
religion

 

[linwood]

I think it is wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin. I think it supports and contributes to prejudice against and ignorance of homosexuality. I think spreading the idea, that homosexuality is a sin, is harmful to many, especially gay youths (who are not worldly enough to see past the nonsense).

There is Biblical support for the idea that homosexuality is sin.
If that support is convincing to you then I don`t see why you shouldn`t label homosexuality a sin.

What does interest me is why people would bother with the concept of "sin" in the first place.

 

[Azakel]

top 2 causes of blindness (in no particular order):

sharp pointy sticks
religion

Or religion holding a sharp pointy stick.

 

[HouseofIsrael]

Uhm... maybe because it was an utterly perverse place where all kinds of crimes against nature and rape was taking place? :yes:

My My. I see.

 

[Buttons*]

Sure, but you've gotta admit religion does a really good job of it, at least as good as anything else, if not better.

Nah, being uneducated is probably the root cause there. IMO

 

[HouseofIsrael]

Nah, being uneducated is probably the root cause there. IMO

Uneducated about what? pointless, and what does 'being educated' insinuates by your intellect.

 

[HouseofIsrael]

Sure, but you've gotta admit religion does a really good job of it, at least as good as anything else, if not better.

Religion is the root cause for much of corruption present today, not because i speak from a biblical or religious perspective means my understanding and representation is the same as Christians do, cause it's not.

 

[slave2six]

Religion is the root cause for much of corruption present today, not because i speak from a biblical or religious perspective means my understanding and representation is the same as Christians do, cause it's not.

Huh? I don't understand that sentence at all.

 

[HouseofIsrael]

Huh? I don't understand that sentence at all.

Let it be. That was for a specific quote.
I'm religious, but i'm not a christian. I do agree that religion can be misleading -but God is not the author of confusion.

 

[Magic Man]

Nah, being uneducated is probably the root cause there. IMO

I disagree. Sometimes that's true. However, religion blinds people many times by intentional uneducation. That's the whole point. For instance, the whole evolution "debate". Religion blinds people who don't accept the theory by making them not want to educate themselves or to reject any kind of education. In essense, religion is the cause of their uneducation.

Let it be. That was for a specific quote.
I'm religious, but i'm not a christian. I do agree that religion can be misleading -but God is not the author of confusion.

I didn't understand the previous response either. This helps a little, but not much. Are you saying that its people's misinterpretations of God that mislead?

 

[Mr Cheese]

I disagree. Sometimes that's true. However, religion blinds people many times by intentional uneducation. That's the whole point. For instance, the whole evolution "debate". Religion blinds people who don't accept the theory by making them not want to educate themselves or to reject any kind of education. In essense, religion is the cause of their uneducation.



I didn't understand the previous response either. This helps a little, but not much. Are you saying that its people's misinterpretations of God that mislead?

Religion per se does not make people stupid...

Refusal to grow makes people stupid. People's choice of belief system just exascerbates this... for example:

the church of Cod teaches about the holy fish.
Adherants may be forced to believe in fish, and only fish, and never consider Calamari.

Of course poor education and generations of stupidity does not help, refusal to "learn" is often something that is affected by nurture as much as nature

 

[HouseofIsrael]

I didn't understand the previous response either. This helps a little, but not much. Are you saying that its people's misinterpretations of God that mislead?

Absolutely. And it's even deeper than that -it's more like what people are led to believe by what are taught to them through religion. I have my understanding on certain matters and so do you. I only wanted you to understand that not because i quote from a religious point of view it means my understanding represents christian beliefs, sometimes it is just basic human reasoning.

 

[Buttons*]

I disagree. Sometimes that's true. However, religion blinds people many times by intentional uneducation. That's the whole point. For instance, the whole evolution "debate". Religion blinds people who don't accept the theory by making them not want to educate themselves or to reject any kind of education. In essense, religion is the cause of their uneducation.

I see it as more of an excuse, not a cause. I know many intelligent people who are heavily religious. While some ideas are truly flawed, they at least understand the other side of the pond... because they are educated. The people who refuse to accept something different are not being blinded by faith - they are being selfish, and blinded by their desired ignorance.

Last comment on this, I promise.

 

[HouseofIsrael]

I see it as more of an excuse, not a cause. I know many intelligent people who are heavily religious. While some ideas are truly flawed, they at least understand the other side of the pond... because they are educated. The people who refuse to accept something different are not being blinded by faith - they are being selfish, and blinded by their desired ignorance.

Last comment on this, I promise.

We can look at a painting but we make not exactly gather the same understanding of the image. I have a deep passion for science from youth unto this day yet i do believe there is a God that is responsible for earth's creation. Because of scientific theory that i can't come to grip with at this point as the explanation for earth's existence, would you say i'm selfish and blinded by my desired ignorance? perhaps i need more than theory to understand and accept this concept.

 

[Magic Man]

I see it as more of an excuse, not a cause. I know many intelligent people who are heavily religious. While some ideas are truly flawed, they at least understand the other side of the pond... because they are educated. The people who refuse to accept something different are not being blinded by faith - they are being selfish, and blinded by their desired ignorance.

Last comment on this, I promise.

Again, I disagree. Look at Evolution, for instance. There is no reason for anyone to outright reject evolution other than religious beliefs. People's religious beliefs blind them to the idea of evolution.

Yes, there are many intelligent people who have no problem reconciling reality and their religious beliefs, but it's a testament to their intelligence.

 

[Buttons*]

Again, I disagree. Look at Evolution, for instance. There is no reason for anyone to outright reject evolution other than religious beliefs. People's religious beliefs blind them to the idea of evolution.

Yes, there are many intelligent people who have no problem reconciling reality and their religious beliefs, but it's a testament to their intelligence.

ChrisP, who is not really religious, and who is incredibly intelligent, doesn't fully accept the evolution theory.... what is he blinded by?

 

[Magic Man]

ChrisP, who is not really religious, and who is incredibly intelligent, doesn't fully accept the evolution theory.... what is he blinded by?

Not sure. I'd have to talk to him about it. That would be really, really weird.

 

[Mr Cheese]

ChrisP, who is not really religious, and who is incredibly intelligent, doesn't fully accept the evolution theory.... what is he blinded by?

mball said outright rejection

....

I reject evolution AND ID

ID is too simplist and puerile

Evolution only deals with matter, the physical.

Having had spiritual interactions, I know fully there is more to reality than evolution deals with.

Thus, to me anyway, both need revising, both are wrong. Though evolution is more plausible than ID with its "God put man on earth" and total denial of the process of evolution which is essential CHANGE!