Is Jesus God?

[Servant_of_the_One1]

is this the same as the possible lies of muhammad?

Message of Paul was polytheism, message of Muhammad pbuh was pure monotheism. To say muhammad pbuh is false, is to say all prophets such as abraham, moses, noah and jesus were false too.

Its illogical to accept the message of Abraham, Moses and Jesus(No God but Allah, pure monotheism) and to reject message of prophet Muhammad pbuh(No god but Allah, pure monotheism).

 

[outhouse]

To say muhammad pbuh is false, is to say all prophets such as abraham, moses, noah and jesus were false too.

Well I do think he is false, the way you think Paul is.

Of those you listed. Only Jesus has historicity. The rest are mythological in nature.

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Islam incorporates many Biblical events and heroes into its own mythology. Stories about Musa (Moses)[11] and Ibrahim (Abraham)[12] form parts of Islam's scriptures.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Well I do think he is false, the way you think Paul is.

Of those you listed. Only Jesus has historicity. The rest are mythological in nature.

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Islam incorporates many Biblical events and heroes into its own mythology. Stories about Musa (Moses)[11] and Ibrahim (Abraham)[12] form parts of Islam's scriptures.

Thats your belief , which by the way i dont share. Neither does a jew, hindu, buddhist share your beliefs.
Only in your world paul is truthful, for others he was false and not recognized.

 

[outhouse]

Only in your world paul is truthful,

No, did I say he was truthful?

muhammad is false? and not recognized by jews or many other groups.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

No, did I say he was truthful?

muhammad is false? and not recognized by jews or many other groups.

Did i say prophet Muhammad pbuh was recognized by jews, christians and others?
Outhouse, the point is your truth is regarded as falsehood by others. Deal with it

 

[outhouse]

Thats your belief

No it is the whole worlds belief through academia. [the known truth]

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Islam incorporates many Biblical events and heroes into its own mythology. Stories about Musa (Moses)[11] and Ibrahim (Abraham)[12] form parts of Islam's scriptures.


Have you ever asked yourself why not one credible historian uses the Koran to study any historical aspect what so ever about Abraham and moses and noah, despite the koran being vastly different from the bible????????????

 

[outhouse]

Outhouse, the point is your truth is regarded as falsehood by others. Deal with it

yes the point is muhammad is also as falsehood by others

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

No it is the whole worlds belief through academia. [the known truth]

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Islam incorporates many Biblical events and heroes into its own mythology. Stories about Musa (Moses)[11] and Ibrahim (Abraham)[12] form parts of Islam's scriptures.


Have you ever asked yourself why not one credible historian uses the Koran to study any historical aspect what so ever about Abraham and moses and noah, despite the koran being vastly different from the bible????????????

Have you ever asked that all these historians seemed to be kuffar? Why would they give Qur'an credit when they are kuffar from the jews and christians?
We have no need of kuffar historians, weither they give quran credit or not.

 

[outhouse]

Why would they give Qur'an credit when they are kuffar from the jews and christians?

They are not from Judaism and Christianity . They apply the same exact criticism to their religious books.

Without knowing your admitting to severe fanaticism and fundamentalism. Your saying only biased views can determine credible history.

That is not how credible history is created.

CREDIBLE Historians state

Israelites plagiarized some aspects of Canaanite mythology.

They state Christian's plagiarized some aspects of Judaism.

And islam plagiarized both Judaism and Christianity.

 

[truthofscripture]

They are not from Judaism and Christianity . They apply the same exact criticism to their religious books.

Without knowing your admitting to severe fanaticism and fundamentalism. Your saying only biased views can determine credible history.

That is not how credible history is created.

CREDIBLE Historians state

Israelites plagiarized some aspects of Canaanite mythology.

They state Christian's plagiarized some aspects of Judaism.

And islam plagiarized both Judaism and Christianity.

In your opinion, it is man to whom we should listen? Not God the Almighty, who created all and everything? Absurd.

Who cares what historians say? What matters is what God says.

 

[outhouse]

Not God the Almighty, who created all and everything?

Unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Creation is outlawed from innocent school children.

Who cares what historians say?

All of academia, and every credible university around the whole world.

What matters is what God says.

No god has never said anything that holds any credibility what so ever, including the one god you choose from many gods man has created.

 

[outhouse]

What matters is what God says.

What you fail to realize, is that all people describe different what their god actually says. allah is described as saying things different from your god, who is described as saying things differently from judaism Yahweh.

So is one right? or all wrong?

 

[truthofscripture]

Unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Creation is outlawed from innocent school children.



All of academia, and every credible university around the whole world.



No god has never said anything that holds any credibility what so ever, including the one god you choose from many gods man has created.

It appears that you totally reject the sovereign ruler and creator of the universe, everything in it, and everyone in it, including yourself. By the way, all of the assertions you just made are diametrically opposed to the truth. And who cares what scholars and universities say? They know nothing of truth. And what does "outlawed from innocent school children" mean? It is a sentence that makes not a fig of sense.

 

[Desert Snake]

Message of Paul was polytheism, message of Muhammad pbuh was pure monotheism. To say muhammad pbuh is false, is to say all prophets such as abraham, moses, noah and jesus were false too.

Its illogical to accept the message of Abraham, Moses and Jesus(No God but Allah, pure monotheism) and to reject message of prophet Muhammad pbuh(No god but Allah, pure monotheism).

It isn't polytheism. I already explained why/

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

It isn't polytheism. I already explained why/

Worshiping statues, worshiping saints, worshiping jesus and holyspirit(angel gabriel) is clear and cut polytheism. Has nothing to do with the monotheistic messages of jesus, abraham, muhammad and moses.

 

[outhouse]

It appears that you totally reject the sovereign ruler and creator of the universe, everything in it, and everyone in it, including yourself

Not true.

I do not reject the universe, people and everything in it.

I reject your personal mythology

all of the assertions you just made are diametrically opposed to the truth.

Your perceived truth. Not the truth of known reality.

And who cares what scholars and universities say?

The whole educated world.

They know nothing of truth.

They know nothing of your personal truth, many will claim as mythology.

And what does "outlawed from innocent school children" mean?

It means we teach our children credible science, not mythology.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

In your opinion, it is man to whom we should listen? Not God the Almighty, who created all and everything? Absurd.

Who cares what historians say? What matters is what God says.

I agree with you there.

 

[outhouse]

I agree with you there.

Its of no surprise you refuse credible education.

 

[Whiterain]

Essentially... If you have to ask, his faith conquered half the old world.

I am puzzled with the Asatru crowd as well, as they should worship and represent Baldur over Thor as Christ. You see more of them rocking the Mjölnir pendants that your run of the mill Norsemen would cleave from their bodies.

There may be a good reason behind it, but for now I just watch.

 

[truthofscripture]

Worshiping statues, worshiping saints, worshiping jesus and holyspirit(angel gabriel) is clear and cut polytheism. Has nothing to do with the monotheistic messages of jesus, abraham, muhammad and moses.

What Jesus and the apostles taught involved no statue worship, saint worship, Jesus worship, or holy spirit worship (and Gabriel is not holy spirit). Those things are from religion, not God or Jesus. Religions are all false. They are in one degree or another pagan in nature. They are what Jesus said were false religion. What Jesus taught was the one true faith. Faith in Jehovah God, faith in Jesus, God's only begotten son, and faith in the Kingdom of the heavens and Jesus' sacrifice. Christendom, the religions practicing what you mentioned, can be said to be polytheistic, as they are pagan. Christendom is not Christianity. Christendom only falsely claims Christianity.