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Is Jesus responsible for what Paul said?
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Avoice1C
the means are the ends
No Jesus didn't but it was the custom from God the Father for women to be silent in worship not in approaching God. As for "effeminates" Jesus never met one for us to know hao he viewed them. God the Father rejected them in the Hebrew scriptures which Jesus followed in his life on this earth.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
I would consider John, the BELOVED DISCIPLE who puts his head in Jesus' lap and writes some text going on and on and on and on about how much he loves Jesus and how much Jesus loves him to the point you start to think maybe Eric Cartman wrote this in his Faith + 1 days, on the rainbow side of things.
And it wasn't God's custom to shut women up in the Temple. It was man's custom.
And it wasn't God's custom to shut women up in the Temple. It was man's custom.
The risen Jesus is.
Avoice1C
the means are the ends
I've been Reading through the entire Bible for nearly 50 years. I know what it says and I made nothing up, storyteller.
Avoice1C
the means are the ends
Then you should know the spirit of the work well enough to know I did not make any of it up,I got 11 years on you. So there!
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I am responsible if I write them down.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Is Jesus responsible for what John, book of John, says?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Do you mean the Gospel of John?
If so the answer is no. It is very unlikely that John wrote that book and even if he did Jesus was dead for a long time before he wrote it. The blame for that falls on him.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Hi......
Well, you answered your own question, saying that Paul never knew Jesus, and never bothered to mention anything about his life of mission, no stories, no anecdotes, no examples.
The fact that Paul was a contract breaking renegade doesn't say much for his integrity either.
Nope........ Paul didn't write about anything that Jesus the man stood for, imo.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
So you believe what Paul claimed? I don't!
Did you ever find or seek any proof for the claims of a contract busting fibber, who made up the rules and laws of Christianity as he went along?
Gallowglass
Member
All former Christians I know left the church based on Paul’s teachings and words, or those attributed to him. None of them had issues with anything Jesus said or taught.
Gallowglass
Member
Wow. That is...interesting. Jesus actively does talk about men who are “eunuchs from their mother’s womb,” which was a legal term used for gay men in Ancient Rome. We have many laws that allow them to adopt, and many writers who claim so and so is off getting it on with natural eunuchs. Jesus says nothing about them going to hell or being punished.
So actually you’re wrong. Secondly, the Hebrew Scriptures only prohibit anal sex. (Having sex with another man, like you would with a woman.) Many gay people do not have anal sex, just like many lesbians do not use strap-ons.
Just misinterpreted. Or manipulated. Sorry, Jesus never said anything about women shutting up, or "effeminates", either as his own material or recycled from the OT.
I think the proof is the teaching. In my opinion people are too evil and selfish and stupid to make Bible without God.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
What are you talking about? With all of the flaws and errors in the Bible it seems rather blasphemous to me to call it the "word of God". It is exactly the sort of work that fallible human beings would write.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
There is very little proof. The life and mission of Yeshua is mostly based upon the balances of probability and possibility.
All that Christians can cling to is faith, but if they are clinging to G-John then they are on clutching straws, imo..
No one has yet shown any real flaw or error in the Bible. Errors are usually only in the interpretations, not in the Bible.