Is living a gay/lesbian lifestyle a problem with God?

[Autodidact]

What, exactly, is a "gay lifestyle?" Possessing closets? Being fashionable? Being an interesting individual? Being creative?

Or in my case, wearing comfortable shoes? Not using birth control? Being a fan of women's sports?

 

[AaronG]

God loves sinners, God hates sin!!
Does Christ say that He forgives but we can continue sinning.....

Many people wrongly think Christianity is a match meaning God likes to forgive and I like to sin.

 

[Nadia Faiazova]

God's Word says clearly:" What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom".(1 Corinthians 6:9, 10)
People who pursue doing this detestable things will not be saved alive when Jehovah God starts judging.

 

[blackout]

God's Word says clearly:" What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom".(1 Corinthians 6:9, 10)
People who pursue doing this detestable things will not be saved alive when Jehovah God starts judging.

Did Jesus (proportedly) say those things?

 

[Nadia Faiazova]

No, this was apostle Paul who said these words. Jesus taught that on account of fornication (which includes the grossly immoral use of the genital organ(s) of at least one human; also there must have been two or more parties (including another consenting human or a beast), whether of the same sex or the opposite sex) that is one reason to divorce. He says:"However, I say to YOU that everyone divorcing his wife, except on account of fornication, makes her a subject for adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery" (Matthew 5:32)

 

[Father Heathen]

Why would anyone trust other humans, especially those of questionable character and ethics, to speak on behalf of God? I would imagine that if there was a god reason and compassion would lead us there, rather than jumping through irrational and arbitrary hoops that originated from ancient and primitive cultures known only for their savagery and barbarism.

 

[blackout]

No, this was apostle Paul who said these words.

Yes. I knew that.

Who do you follow?

Jesus taught that on account of fornication (which includes the grossly immoral use of the genital organ(s) of at least one human; also there must have been two or more parties (including another consenting human or a beast), whether of the same sex or the opposite sex) that is one reason to divorce.

*where is the blank stare emoticon*

He says:"However, I say to YOU that everyone divorcing his wife, except on account of fornication, makes her a subject for adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery" (Matthew 5:32

and the point there is?.....

 

[blackout]

Is masterbation fornication?

just a querry....

 

[Primordial Annihilator]

Many claim that the Bible has nothing against 'homosexuality' or being 'gay or lesbian', that in fact the words never appear in scriptures so thus its not a problem with God. Well lets check it out...

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.
Leviticus 18:23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
1Cr 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
1Cr 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Cr 7:2 Nevertheless,[to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Man with man is fornication!! Woman with woman is fornication!!
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

God loves sinners, God hates sin!!
Does Christ say that He forgives but we can continue sinning.....

John 5:14
Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

John 8:11
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

Living a gay lifestyle might be a problem for the 'Christian' perception of God via the Bible...but thats just one perception of God...certianly no more valid than any other...despite what the thread author parochially thinks.

 

[Autodidact]

No, this was apostle Paul who said these words. Jesus taught that on account of fornication (which includes the grossly immoral use of the genital organ(s) of at least one human; also there must have been two or more parties (including another consenting human or a beast), whether of the same sex or the opposite sex) that is one reason to divorce. He says:"However, I say to YOU that everyone divorcing his wife, except on account of fornication, makes her a subject for adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery" (Matthew 5:32)

1. Might want to check your translation on that.
2. Nothing about women in there.

 

[Autodidact]

N He says:"However, I say to YOU that everyone divorcing his wife, except on account of fornication, makes her a subject for adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery" (Matthew 5:32)

Sounds like Jesus hates divorce. Is divorce immoral? Do Christian congregations allow divorced people to join? With their new harlots? Is there a huge Christian movement to make divorce illegal? Should second marriages be allowed?

 

[Sleekstar]

Listen, I don't accept the Bible as the word of God. I have no problem with homosexuality. But if you consider the Bible to be the word of God, then homosexuality is wrong. There's really no debate. Someone suggested that if Paul made the statements instead of Jesus himself, then it doesn't carry as much weight. That's false. If it's in the Bible, then according to what Christian churches teach, it's in there because God inspired it. If God inspired those words, then homosexuality should be seen as an abhorrent sin if you are a Bible believer.

And I understand the need for some people to try to "interpret" their way around these statements; after all, many people are enlightened enough to know better, but have reason to want to hold onto their faith. In order to maintain their faith while knowing better, they look for reasons to deny that these anti-Gay scriptural references are in fact anti-gay. But in my view, you're being ridiculous. No matter what the translation, it really couldn't be more clear. Paul is blasting homosexuality, just like the new testament does. If you are a Bible believer, then Paul's condemnations of homosexuality reflect God's teaching on the subject.

You can't have it both ways. You either believe in God and shun homosexuality, or you reject the Bible. Rejecting the Bible is not a bad thing, actually. Deism (which, among other things, rejects the idea of a holy book) really can bring you closer to God.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

God's Word says clearly:" What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom".(1 Corinthians 6:9, 10)

Good thing I'm not a man then.

Do Christian congregations allow divorced people to join? With their new harlots? Is there a huge Christian movement to make divorce illegal? Should second marriages be allowed?

Actually, there are many churches that do frown upon divorce, save for in cases of adultery, and will not marry people who have been divorced. I know one lady who has been seperated from her husband for years and since their church says no on divorce they haven't filled for it. And yes, some people do want divorce to be illegal.
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No, this was apostle Paul who said these words.

I believe the religion is called "Christianity" being a follower of Christ, not followers of Paul who was very different from Jesus.

 

[Katzpur]

Is living a gay/lesbian lifestyle a problem with God? Personally, I believe it is, but since I'm not God, I'm perfectly willing to let Him deal with it. I couldn't care less what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms and I have absolutely zero desire to force my standard of morality upon anybody else.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Personally, I believe it is, but since I'm not God, I'm perfectly willing to let Him deal with it. I couldn't care less what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms and I have absolutely zero desire to force my standard of morality upon anybody else.

I wish that even just half of those who label themselves as Christian had this understanding and acceptance, especially in letting God deal with it (especially since he did say that he would be the one to judge people for their sins, and Jesus specifically told people to not judge people for them.)

 

[Big_TJ]

IT'S NOT THE SENSITIVITY OF THE TOPIC. It's the slander. If you're trying to say that all sexuality is related to slavery, then why even bring it up in a thread on homosexuality? Saying that homosexuality originates in slavery is just disgusting, evil slander. There is nothing fair about it; it's bigotry, pure and simple. I suggest that you withdraw your baseless propaganda, apologize to gay people for spreading lies about them, and refrain from doing so in future.

Isnt this the same as people who says "Nothing is wrong with Homosexuality?" and that "Homosexuality is natural?" :sarcastic

I think they are spreading a lie, too.

 

[Autodidact]

Isnt this the same as people who says "Nothing is wrong with Homosexuality?" and that "Homosexuality is natural?" :sarcastic

I think they are spreading a lie, too.

Really? What do you think is wrong or unnatural about homosexuality?

 

[Big_TJ]

Really? What do you think is wrong or unnatural about homosexuality?

Personally I think that homosexuality is unnatural. I am no biologist but I think that it stems from some modifications of some genes gone wrong or something like that (probably the genes that control ones sexual preference). I am of the opinion that real homosexuals/lesbians are born that way. However, I view that the same way as a child born with DOWNS syndrome or sickle cells or something like that. Though we dont see a person who born with Downs syndrome as being an outcast, I think it could be a stretch to state that these person's are natrual in any way.

The "evidence" of my opinion is the fact that there is a "seemingly" small minority of the population that is born homosexual; which would led me to believe that this is not natural.

 

[Autodidact]

Personally I think that homosexuality is unnatural. I am no biologist but I think that it stems from some modifications of some genes gone wrong or something like that (probably the genes that control ones sexual preference). I am of the opinion that real homosexuals/lesbians are born that way. However, I view that the same way as a child born with DOWNS syndrome or sickle cells or something like that. Though we dont see a person who born with Downs syndrome as being an outcast, I think it could be a stretch to state that these person's are natrual in any way.

The "evidence" of my opinion is the fact that there is a "seemingly" small minority of the population that is born homosexual; which would led me to believe that this is not natural.

What do you mean by "natural?" then? You don't mean "occuring in nature" or "as a result of nature." It sounds like you mean something more like "normal" or "healthy," is that right?

Your opinion is that anything in the minority is unnatural, such as left-handedness or intellectual brilliance?

 

[Big_TJ]

What do you mean by "natural?" then? You don't mean "occuring in nature" or "as a result of nature." It sounds like you mean something more like "normal" or "healthy," is that right?

"Not Normal" would be a good candidate but I really think "unnatural" express my view adequately ("unnatural - 'at variance with what is normal or to be expected' - Unnatural | Define Unnatural at Dictionary.com)

Your opinion is that anything in the minority is unnatural, such as left-handedness or intellectual brilliance?

Pretty much; I think that extremely gifted persons are unnatural, as with left-handed persons (gosh, forgot that I am a lefty ...).