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Is masturbation a sin?

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
mr.guy said:
Who knows? Maybe your wife won't be able to compete with your competance concerning the "task at hand".
Rrrrrrrrrright. And so more quantity is more natural...:rolleyes:

~Victor
 

Isabella Lecour

amor aeternus est
Masturbation is a very fine and pleasurable activity that deserves to be done in moderation for both sexes. As I have a problem with the idea of "sin" I will say I don't see anything wrong with it. I don't have any religious probitions against it. For me, sexually activity is a gift from our divine parents and it is a gift to be enjoyed and shared under certain conditions.

As a long time masturbator, I don't find an increase in my sexually thoughts. If any thing, it's a fine way to spend a few moments before falling asleep. It does release pent up fustrations, from sexual fustrations to not wanting to feel so sick anymore. It's great just to feel good for a little while. It's pleasurable and unlike other things, it can be wore out, so it also has a built in "stop" device.

Just why would the divine ever place on us something that shouldn't be used? It's like telling the kids to stay out of the cookie jar that's hanging around their neck!:tsk:
 

Nehustan

Well-Known Member
I wander past a desk at work and often smile at the product I see sat on the desk...


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pdoel

Active Member
FFH said:
Jesus was not married. We can assume this because there is no record of it. I think it is fair to say that he overcame all sexual temptaions, in order to be a perfect sacrifice for us. He is our example of a perfect life.
I'm not so sure on that matter. The Catholics believe that Mary is the only human to ever be born without Sin. Catholics believe that Mary's conception was the Immaculate Conception (not her conceiving Jesus), and that her conception was miraculous, as she was born without Sin, which is the only way she could be the mother of God.

With that in mind, one can only assume that Jesus was born with Sin, just like everyone else.

While I'm not Catholic and do not believe that Mary was perfect and without Sin, I have been taught that when Jesus died on the cross and ascended into Heaven, that God was unable to look at Jesus, as he could not look at Sin. And that it wasn't until he was forgiven (and thus, we've all been forgiven), that God was able to embrace his Son.

With that in mind, I don't believe Jesus was perfect. And in reading his word, I don't believe Jesus would want us to think he was perfect. I hold him in extremely high regard. He is my Savior, and I think he lived a wonderful life, and taught us well. But it is not my belief that he was perfect.
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
My situation is a little different then most. I'm only home 1 or 2 nights a week. I'd much rather have my wife satisfy herself then seek it elsewhere and I know she feels the same. If you feel the urge and your away from home, call her/him up. Let your hair down. Add a little kink to your life. And as long is it's just between the 2 of you, anything goes.
 

Solon

Active Member
jgallandt said:
Your either double jointed or one heck of a shot! :clap:
LOL, not that good shot, you just lick it off your fingers ;) I mean, you can't expect somelse to do that, if you can't do it yourself.

S
 

mr.guy

crapsack
ffh said:
Jesus was not married. We can assume this because there is no record of it. I think it is fair to say that he overcame all sexual temptaions, ....

Might also be fair to assume he was a rampant maturbator, in order to overcome other extraneous temptations. Just because he didn't broadcast everything he did in his spare time, doesn't mean he didn't; i've yet to hear about jesus's take on toilet paper.
 

mr.guy

crapsack
Victor said:
The name of the game is "if it's pleasurable, it is right".
Victor, why do you always reduce the "game" to this? You know that's not a fair representation of people who are just a mite less puritanical.
 

pdoel

Active Member
Victor said:
The name of the game is "if it's pleasurable, it is right". :rolleyes:

~Victor
:banghead3

Again, the contradictions in religion/nature just make you wanna bang your head against the wall.

Sex is pleasurable. The purpose of sex (from a nature standpoint) is to procreate.

God teaches us to "be fruitful and multiply". Sex is pleasurable so that people will WANT to do it and so the human race does not die out. It's pure and simple survival of the species.

So, even if you aren't with a partner, the fact is, it's still enjoyable.

Why would God design us to feel these pleasures, in order to get us to carry through with them, but then tell us it's a sin? I just don't get that.

Sure, we're supposed to be the "bigger man" and not fall to temptation. We should only have sex when we're trying to have children. Yet, we should also accept all children willingly. We should not masturbate. We shouldn't have pre-marital sex.

There are so many hangups when it comes to sex. No wonder people snap. No wonder there are still rapings. No wonder there are still molestations. I really don't think that's what God intended either. For innocent children to be violated and harmed because MAN has tried to tell us it's wrong to masturbate.
 

Solon

Active Member
Darkdale said:
Yes. I am able to read minds. I'm calling you out man. lol
Well your wrong, my wife and g/f's would often give me one off the wrist, and if thier wrists got tired, I'd take over until I was just about to come, and then let them finish you off, that's the way, Equally, there's nothing wrong if a woman wants to mastubate in front of a man, I mean, to be frank, that's highly stimulating...
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
pdoel said:
Why would God design us to feel these pleasures, in order to get us to carry through with them, but then tell us it's a sin? I just don't get that.
Oh vey... what a pitiful example of humanity.... I echo Victor in his observation that "if it feels good.. do it!".... these weak suggestions that people will "snap" and rape and molest others without relief of sexual tensions should convince anyone out there who doubts the reality of evolution : it seems that our culture is made up of barely more than hairless apes.

In Christ,
Scott
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
Solon said:
there's nothing wrong if a woman wants to mastubate in front of a man, I mean, to be frank, that's highly stimulating...
I posted that same thought earlier. It's fun! SO LET ME GET ANOTHER WOW, BABY! FROM THE CONGREGATION!
 

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
mr.guy said:
Victor, why do you always reduce the "game" to this? You know that's not a fair representation of people who are just a mite less puritanical.
It doesn't need me to reduce it. It's just what happens with such things. It's like the commercial of the tootsie pop. "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootise pop." As many it takes to satify me. Cause we all know it's about my satisfaction.


~Victor
 

mr.guy

crapsack
Victor said:
It doesn't need me to reduce it. It's just what happens with such things.
And i can say that centralized religious figureheads are prone to gross corruption, as that is "just what happens with such things". Not fun when one starts throwing over-generalized, thoughtless points around is it?

It's like the commercial of the tootsie pop. "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootise pop." As many it takes to satify me. Cause we all know it's about my satisfaction.
Forgive me if i'm wrong, but if you're stisfied before you've gotten to the center, a your satisfaction is insufficient to qualify. I assume that's your point, though.
 

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
mr.guy said:
And i can say that centralized religious figureheads are prone to gross corruption, as that is "just what happens with such things". Not fun when one starts throwing over-generalized, thoughtless points around is it?

Boy did you miss my point. Self-control was my point. Second, that one be open to life.

mr.guy said:
Forgive me if i'm wrong, but if you're stisfied before you've gotten to the center, a your satisfaction is insufficient to qualify. I assume that's your point, though.

No it's not. Sometimes doing the right thing may not bring instant satisfaction. That's my point.

~Victor
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
Victor, the point in that tootsie pop add was you get bored and 'bite'..... Surely you don't...... :eek:
 

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
jgallandt said:
Victor, the point in that tootsie pop add was you get bored and 'bite'..... Surely you don't...... :eek:
Not at all...:D
I am self-giving and in it for my wife while being open to life. It works out just fine for me. :)
 
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