Is masturbation a sin?

[jeffrey]

Not at all...
I am self-giving and in it for my wife while being open to life. It works out just fine for me.

You cannibal! :biglaugh:

 

[muichimotsu]

Masturbation is a psychological necessity to many people. If you hold it back, your body generally becomes more stressed much easier. Stress relief, avoiding pregnancy (especially), the "safest" form of sex. I see very little wrong with it, if anything it's actually lowering pregnancy. Just kids that make silly choices perhaps.

 

[Quiddity]

Masturbation is a psychological necessity to many people.

I disagree with this statement. How does your psyche distinguish between masturbation and sex? It would seem to me that sex is the final fulfillment that the body seeks. One can circumvent the psyche by masturbating, when the body really wants sex.

~Victor

 

[Green Gaia]

Something as important as Jesus being married would have been recorded in scripture by God.

What does that have to do with masturbation?


How about this.... everyone who thinks masturbation is evil and immoral: DON'T DO IT and quit telling those of us who don't have a problem with it that we are evil, sinners for getting out a little sexual frustration, OK? Can we agree to that?

Sheesh, this topic never goes anywhere constructive.....

 

[Quiddity]

Sheesh, this topic never goes anywhere constructive.....

People want to do what they want to do.

~Victor

 

[Solon]

What does that have to do with masturbation?


How about this.... everyone who thinks masturbation is evil and immoral: DON'T DO IT and quit telling those of us who don't have a problem with it that we are evil, sinners for getting out a little sexual frustration, OK? Can we agree to that?

Sheesh, this topic never goes anywhere constructive.....

Good point, I was wondering that myself. And Aqualung, same goes for you.

Solon

 

[FFH]

Sins could be rationalized away as not sins if you attach it to a certain philosophy. This still does not make it true. Truth cannot be rationalized away and attached to a certain philosophy. Truth is eternal. It always existed and will always exist.

Sins will always be sins. Masturbation will always be a sin.

 

[mr.guy]

Boy did you miss my point. Self-control was my point. Second, that one be open to life.

Victor, i've no doubt that it is (although i still can't extrapolate that from your statement). But to go onto say that anyone disagreeing with your sexual ethics is necessarily and completely lacking in self-control (which is still how it reads to me) is an extreme statement; and a dishonest one at that. I hope i've again misunderstood you.

No it's not. Sometimes doing the right thing may not bring instant satisfaction. That's my point.

Fine by me (what's so good about the center of tootsie rolls, anyway?).

 

[Solon]

Nobody is saying jesus masturbated, and I doubt if anybody cares.

S

 

[Green Gaia]

If you guys want to discuss this, get back on topic please, otherwise take it to another thread.

The topic of this thread is, "Is Masturbation A Sin?"

Thanks,
Maize

 

[Aqualung]

If you guys want to discuss this, get back on topic please, otherwise take it to another thread.

The topic of this thread is, "Is Masturbation A Sin?"

Thanks,
Maize

Could you possibly make a thread and move our posts there? Something like "are religion and philosophy mutually exclusive" ... or something. It would be an intersting topic to continue.

 

[Quiddity]

Victor, i've no doubt that it is (although i still can't extrapolate that from your statement). But to go onto say that anyone disagreeing with your sexual ethics is necessarily and completely lacking in self-control (which is still how it reads to me) is an extreme statement; and a dishonest one at that. I hope i've again misunderstood you.

Yes you have. I don't doubt that many people outside my faith have self-control. But you have to take my statement in it's totality. It's not just self-control, but also open to life. This is catholic belief.

Fine by me (what's so good about the center of tootsie rolls, anyway?).

Exactly...

 

[FFH]

What does that have to do with masturbation?

It has everything to do with this subject. In order to determine if masturbation is a sin, we need to take a hard look at Jesus' life. If Jesus is an example of righteousness, then we need to know whether he obstained from any and all forms of sex. He was not married and therefore we can assume he did not have sex with a woman and I am sure he did not participate in any other form of sex. He obstained from all and any forms of sex. He is a perfect example of righteousness. We must follow his example.

 

[Green Gaia]

Could you possibly make a thread and move our posts there? Something like "are religion and philosophy mutually exclusive" ... or something. It would be an intersting topic to continue.

New thread: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24610

 

[Green Gaia]

It has everything to do with this subject. In order to determine if masturbation is a sin, we need to take a hard look at Jesus' life. If Jesus is an example of righteousness, then we need to know whether he obstained from any and all forms of sex. He was not married and therefore we can assume he did not have sex with a woman and I am sure he did not participate in any other form of sex. He obstained from all and any forms of sex. He is a perfect example of righteousness. We must follow his example.

Perhaps we should find out if he parted his hair on the right, left or down the middle so we can follow his fashion statements as well.

There are things that's you're just never going to know.

 

[FFH]

My previous posts had everything to do with whether masturbation is a sin or not. I was taking a hard look at Jesus' life to determine, whether it was a sin or not, since He is a perfect example of the Father.

 

[Green Gaia]

My previous posts had everything to do with whether masturbation is a sin or not. I was takking a hard look at Jesus' life to determine, whether it was a sin or not, since He is a perfect example of the Father.

Since nowhere in the NT, that I'm aware of, does it say that Jesus masturbated or didn't, you're never really going to know, correct?

 

[FFH]

Since nowhere in the NT, that I'm aware of, does it say that Jesus masturbated or didn't, you're never really going to know, correct?

This is true if you eliminate prayer and direct communication with God through the Holy Ghost. It is through the Holy Ghost that we can know the truth of all things. Masturbation is such a private matter that it is best left up to the individual to ask God, through prayer, whether Jesus did or did not do certain things. Philossophy will not answer this question only the Holy Ghost through prayer will answer this question. Jesus was a perfect example of the righteousness of God. If he did not do it, then it is a sin. We can only know if he did, or did not do it, through prayer and fasting. It would not be appropriate to put this type of information in the scriptures. It is a personal and private subject that must be taken up with God in prayer only.

 

[Green Gaia]

It is a personal and private subject that must be taken up with God in prayer only.

Well, good I'm glad that's done.

 

[FFH]

Whether masturbation is a sin or not, is a question of faith not philosophy.