Notanumber
A Free Man
Why is blasphemy such a big issue in Multi-cultural societies?
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Is multiculturalism a failed experiment?
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Notanumber
A Free Man
Shad
Veteran Member
Simple. For centuries Muslims states have enforced state religions thus creating a bubble which has been shattered by immigration and technology. Now it just has become an entitlement based attitude for many as they can not handle any dissent.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Nope.
Think about it......... the US has been multicultural since long before immigrants began streaming through Ellis Island.
The images caste in the Trafalgar Memorial at the base of Nelson's Column in London show blacks manning the guns upon the decks of HMS Victory.
My Father was fighting the Japanese in Burma during WWII and his comrades were Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and Muslims.
What got you to thinking that any of our multicultural societies were something new and recent?
Notanumber
A Free Man
The big difference being that people fighting for the Allies wanted to assimilate rather than strive to dominate their ‘comrades’.
The West was sold multiculturalism but received Sharia instead. We got a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Notanumber
A Free Man
The road to hell is paved with good intensions.
Would this woman be prepared to get on her bike and try to prove her point?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...families-return-says-university-lecturer.html
Meanwhile this is what multiculturalism demands of countries that support it.
Over 400 Isis jihadis have already returned to the UK
Would this woman be prepared to get on her bike and try to prove her point?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...families-return-says-university-lecturer.html
Meanwhile this is what multiculturalism demands of countries that support it.
Over 400 Isis jihadis have already returned to the UK
Notanumber
A Free Man
When I was growing up it was impressed upon me that the UK’s Conservative Party was the Party of Law and Order. How things have changed since multiculturalism was welcomed by the establishment.
It seems the German population has had enough and are taking things into their own hands at the real risk of being called Far-right.
It seems the German population has had enough and are taking things into their own hands at the real risk of being called Far-right.
Notanumber
A Free Man
What did Douglas and Maajid say here that is wrong?
If what they have said is wrong, why is it wrong?
If what they have said is wrong, why is it wrong?
Notanumber
A Free Man
That seems to prove that multiculturalism has failed just as our governments have failed to listen to their voters.
If they continue with their policy of not listening, we will have to vote for someone who will listen.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
So what's your point here? Do you want to stop multiculturalism? How do you intend to do such a thing? Do you think multiculturalism is a new thing?
Notanumber
A Free Man
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Do you care to answer the questions posed?
If you do want to put an end to multiculturalism, I have no idea what that would even look like or how you think you could restrict people from freely moving about and blending with different cultures, countries and peoples.
I'm also curious as to how many Muslim people you actually know or have met.
Notanumber
A Free Man
If you watched the video, you will have caught a glimpse of what multiculturalism has done to the British Bobby. The police service in the UK is more concerned about peoples hurt feelings rather than patrolling the streets in an effort to control crime.
When a crime is reported they say they haven’t the resources to deal with it but they have the resources to deal with “hate” that is not even a crime.
Our glorious leaders have fostered multiculturalism upon us without the consent of the people. London has overtaken New York according to published crime stats.
London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest
Our politicians got us into this mess but there is only one leader that seems to want to address the problem and he is called all sorts of names for doing so.
The point is our leaders should be addressing the situation that they caused.
British culture has served Britain well and I did not and still do not see the need to change it.
If it did need to be changed for some unknown reason, mass immigration was not the answer.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I'm baffled as to how you think this answers my questions.
Nobody foisted multiculturalism on anybody. It just is. People move around and live where they want. Canada and the US (for examples) have been multicultural for centuries.
Notanumber
A Free Man
The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were partly due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.
He said Labour's relaxation of controls was a deliberate plan to "open up the UK to mass migration" but that ministers were nervous and reluctant to discuss such a move publicly for fear it would alienate its "core working class vote".
As a result, the public argument for immigration concentrated instead on the economic benefits and need for more migrants.
Critics said the revelations showed a "conspiracy" within Government to impose mass immigration for "cynical" political reasons.
Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural, says former adviser
Shad
Veteran Member
Canada has some of, if not the most, restrictive regulations on immigration on the planet. Hence why the problems in the USA and Europe are not present here. Canada's multiculturalism is very selective. Nobody can just show up and become an immigrant. Low-class immigration is more or less impossible outside sponsors. The southern and north-west borders are with the USA. West and east have oceans while the far north has the arctic.
Perhaps instead of only looking at the result you should consider the laws and regulations involved which create the result being praised. More so I would add Trump wants to use the Canadian system within the USA over the current one. Food for thought.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Doesn't change the fact that we are a very diverse culture of people from all different kinds of backgrounds from all over the world. We are already multicultural and have been for centuries. This isn't some new thing that just started happening. Immigration wasn't always as strict as it is now. We had a policy of open immigration when my ancestors arrived here from Russia. I shudder to think how they'd be treated today. But that's par for the course with immigrants, isn't it? Nobody liked the Irish when they started coming. Or the Italians. Or the Chinese. Or anybody, really. They were all going to ruin the country! Now it's Muslims that everyone is afraid of. A few years from now it will be somebody else. Humans have a tendency to overreact about this stuff.
My brother-in-law came from Trinidad and Tobago with his immediate family when he was a child. Most of his family now lives here, twenty years later. My father-in-law thinks they're low-life brown people, when in actuality, they're been quite successful. I work with all kinds of people who were once refugees from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, you name it. They are all hard working, successful people. Some native born Canadians would view them as lowlifes and potential terrorists. They're actually just people who want the same things everybody else does, which is why they came here in the first place.
My point really is that multiculturalism isn't an experiment or some new thing we're trying out. It's something that just is, and has always been. People have always feared those who are new and different and foreign. That's just how we are, I guess. But multiculturalism isn't going to destroy the world or anything. It is the world.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Do you want to stop multiculturalism?
How do you intend to do such a thing?
Do you think multiculturalism is a new thing? (I guess the answer to this one is yes?)
Notanumber
A Free Man
In the UK, those that forced it upon us called it multiculturalism but in reality, they knew it was cultural cleansing. The EU is a big promoter of this.
The only power I have is free speech for the time being so do not ask me to provide the answers.
It is relatively new in the UK -
The "deliberate policy", from late 2000 until "at least February last year", when the new points based system was introduced, was to open up the UK to mass migration, he said.
Some 2.3 million migrants have been added to the population since then, according to Whitehall estimates quietly slipped out last month. (dated 23/10/2009)
(From the link above).