Is prostitution "immoral"?

[Marble]

Well besides the degradation of women and their bodies ,

Not all prostitutes are women, there are also men who prostitute themselves (although this is rarely discussed).

making themselves subject to the sexual whims of men in exchange for soulless material gain thing?

Material gain is not that soulless when it provides a home, food & cloth for a woman (and her children).
As I understand it, many women ave no other choice.

I would reverse the question: Is it moral to pay someone for sex, why or why not?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Ok, so respond to any of my posts then, if gender is your standard.

Sure I would be glad to

 

[CynthiaCypher]

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Material gain is not that soulless when it provides a home, food & cloth for a woman (and her children).
As I understand it, many women ave no other choice.

Survival prostitution is forced prostitution

 

[The Sum of Awe]

For sex being sacred, although you may find it immoral, you seem to be stating it should be illegal, but that's not a good enough reason:

(ALSO IGNORE THAT IT SAYS GAY MARRIAGE, THIS WORKS AGAINST PROSTITUTION SHOULD BE ILLEGAL ARGUMENTS ALSO)

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Let's say there is a guy named Jake. Jake has his eyes set on this huge widescreen television, but he's short on cash at the moment, so being the impatient man he is he decides to make a deal with a buddy of his he met down at the gay swingers club that he frequents to do some sexual favors in exchange for some cash. He is being raped?

Depends on his status in society. If he were a young poor black male prostituting himself a wealthy older white male I would consider that rape.

It's all about the power dynamics, it's the power dynamics that make it exploitative.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

For sex being sacred, although you may find it immoral, you seem to be stating it should be illegal, but that's not a good enough reason:



(ALSO IGNORE THAT IT SAYS GAY MARRIAGE, THIS WORKS AGAINST PROSTITUTION SHOULD BE ILLEGAL ARGUMENTS ALSO)

So you're equating gay marriage with prostitution? Good job, I sure gays will enjoy that equation.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

So you're equating gay marriage with prostitution? Good job, I sure gays will enjoy that equation.

No, as I said, ignore that it says gay marriage at the top.

My point is, just because you believe it is sacred, it is still unconstitutional to make it illegal.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

No, as I said, ignore that it says gay marriage at the top.

My point is, just because you believe it is sacred, it is still unconstitutional to make it illegal.

I never once said anything about making laws against it now did I?

Why you trying to make it like I did? That's dishonest of you. Is lying a normal tactic of yours?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I never once said anything about making laws against it now did I?

Why you trying to make it like I did? That's dishonest of you. Is lying a normal tactic of yours?

Just seemed like it, and you didn't deny Zoe here:

The problem is your stance seems to involve forcing that view on others using the law.

EDIT: Nor did you deny it at first when I said it first, you denied it when I replied.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Just seemed like it, and you didn't deny Zoe here:


EDIT: Nor did you deny it at first when I said it first, you denied it when I replied.

I think you have a problem with reading comprehension.


http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2811918-post115.html

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I think you have a problem with reading comprehension.

I sympathize with your frustration. It's probably similar to what I feel, wondering why you won't respond to the question of what you consider to be exploitation, despite being asked several times now by several other members.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I think you have a problem with reading comprehension.


http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2811918-post115.html

In what way did that post say you didn't want it illegal?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

I sympathize with your frustration. It's probably similar to what I feel, wondering why you won't respond to the question of what you consider to be exploitation, despite being asked several times now by several other members.

Already answered that. I said it was the power dynamics that make it exploitative

 

[CynthiaCypher]

In what way did that post say you didn't want it illegal?

The part were I state education is better than prohibition. See I once said anything about making it illegal.

You're maligning me.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Already answered that. I said it was the power dynamics that make it exploitative

So you're okay with forms of prostitution that don't have the power dynamics you find objectionable?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

So you're okay with forms of prostitution that don't have the power dynamics you find objectionable?

And which forms are those?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

The part were I state education is better than prohibition. See I once said anything about making it illegal.

You're maligning me.

Okay, well it's not my fault I didn't see that post at first, let alone I only said it seems like it, from what I've read in this thread.

You're maligning me.

Seems like the other way around:


Sarcasm:

So you're equating gay marriage with prostitution? Good job, I sure gays will enjoy that equation.

Calling me a liar when I admittedly only assumed something:

Why you trying to make it like I did? That's dishonest of you. Is lying a normal tactic of yours?

Mocking my ability to read and understand:

I think you have a problem with reading comprehension.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

And which forms are those?

Hypothetically.

You said that power dynamics come from social status, but there's no particular reason why prostitutes have to be looked down on. Hypothetically, if prostitution was a respected profession, then there would be no power imbalance between prostitute and customer.

If that was to happen, would you still have a problem with prostitution?

 

[Sayi Nazir]

For sex being sacred, although you may find it immoral, you seem to be stating it should be illegal, but that's not a good enough reason:

(ALSO IGNORE THAT IT SAYS GAY MARRIAGE, THIS WORKS AGAINST PROSTITUTION SHOULD BE ILLEGAL ARGUMENTS ALSO)

This issue made me laugh. The "sanctity of marriage" thing is often taken out-of-context by those - religious, I mean - who don't understand it. When speaking of the sanctity of marriage I am referring to being married in a Church/Mosque/Synagogue before the Eyes of the Almighty. I have objection to allowing homosexuals being permitted to marry in such institutions since the God of Abraham very clearly states that homosexuality is an abhorrent sin. Furthermore, we see Him treating no other sin as harshly as homosexuality implying this is His most despised.

I don't have a problem, however, with gay marriage before a state or what-have-you. Just not in an Abrahamic religious institution.

And, as the above picture states - "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." Works both ways!

 

[Revoltingest]

It just dawned on me.....I'm a victim of exploitation!
In days of yore, I described my job as "industrial whore" because I'd do anything for any manufacturer willing to pay me for my 'special talent'.
I needed the money, & my clients (a sanitized word for johns) had urgent needs for exotic & expensive services. Oh no, I certainly earned a
respectable wage, but the obscene cost arose with all the other players required in our escapades. I felt so alive....but I should've felt so dirty.
Live & learn.