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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
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paarsurrey
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
I give below The Holy Quran : Chapter 90: Al-Balad
: [2]
[90:11] And We have pointed out to him the two highways of good and evil.
[90:12] But he attempted not the ascent courageously.
[90:13] And what should make thee know what the ascent is?
[90:14] It is the freeing of a slave.
[90:15] Or feeding in a day of hunger
[90:16] An orphan near of kin,
[90:17] Or a poor man lying in the dust.
[90:18] Again, he should have been of those who believe and exhort one another to perseverance and exhort one another to mercy.
[90:19] These are the people of the right hand.
[90:20] But those who disbelieve Our Signs, they are the people of the left hand.
[90:21] Around them will be a fire closed over.
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online
Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted or as comes latest from a posters now spinned from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.
Regard
I give below The Holy Quran : Chapter 90: Al-Balad
: [2]
[90:11] And We have pointed out to him the two highways of good and evil.
[90:12] But he attempted not the ascent courageously.
[90:13] And what should make thee know what the ascent is?
[90:14] It is the freeing of a slave.
[90:15] Or feeding in a day of hunger
[90:16] An orphan near of kin,
[90:17] Or a poor man lying in the dust.
[90:18] Again, he should have been of those who believe and exhort one another to perseverance and exhort one another to mercy.
[90:19] These are the people of the right hand.
[90:20] But those who disbelieve Our Signs, they are the people of the left hand.
[90:21] Around them will be a fire closed over.
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online
Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted or as comes latest from a posters now spinned from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.
Regard
outhouse
Atheistically
Wow! a flaw so large in the religion, not a single follower almost 2 billion strong can defend against. Not the best Islamic professors, nor scholar.
Why does not one credible historian in the whole world use islams books for Jewish and Christian history? Because plagiarized books have no credibility at all.
Maybe I will write a article called "26 words"
islam refuted in two credible sentences.
Why does not one credible historian in the whole world use islams books for Jewish and Christian history? Because plagiarized books have no credibility at all.
Maybe I will write a article called "26 words"
islam refuted in two credible sentences.
outhouse
Atheistically
Abraham never existed as a real person, yet islam claims he was a real prophet
It claims all the mythology was real.
The exodus factually did not happen as written, yet islam claims it is.
The fanaticism involved is exactly like YEC denouncing evolution. But instead of a minority group its the whole religion as a whole.
Why does not one credible historian in the whole world use islams books for Jewish and Christian history? Because plagiarized books have no credibility at all.
It claims all the mythology was real.
The exodus factually did not happen as written, yet islam claims it is.
The fanaticism involved is exactly like YEC denouncing evolution. But instead of a minority group its the whole religion as a whole.
Why does not one credible historian in the whole world use islams books for Jewish and Christian history? Because plagiarized books have no credibility at all.
outhouse
Atheistically
Must add. We have factual evidence that supports the Canaanite origin of Israelites.
It shows a slow migration over a few hundreds years.
It factually shows after 1200 BC displaced Canaanites and other Semitic people slowly moved to the highlands of Israel.
These people factually used.
The Canaanite alphabet, pottery, and gods.
Israelites did not have any identity as their own until after 1000 BC. Not one aspect of Israelites pseudo history is accurate before 1000 BC
yet islam plagiarized all the pseudo history as real out of severe historical ignorance.
It shows a slow migration over a few hundreds years.
It factually shows after 1200 BC displaced Canaanites and other Semitic people slowly moved to the highlands of Israel.
These people factually used.
The Canaanite alphabet, pottery, and gods.
Israelites did not have any identity as their own until after 1000 BC. Not one aspect of Israelites pseudo history is accurate before 1000 BC
yet islam plagiarized all the pseudo history as real out of severe historical ignorance.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Aamer
Truth Seeker
Why is this such a hard concept to grasp? Hypothetically speaking, let's pretend there was indeed a God. And he sent his message of monotheism to many messengers throughout history in different parts of the world... Would it make sense that these "religions" (Judaism, Christianity, Sabians (Madaeans), Zoroastrianism, Yazidi's, Islam, etc ) would be very similar?
See my post thread about 33:50. Also see my post in this thread before this.
outhouse
Atheistically
because monotheism did not start until after 622 BC with king Josiah's reforms.
it had nothing to do with Abraham.
before this time there was no monotheism in Israelite culture.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
I give below The Holy Quran : Chapter 89: Al-Fajr: [1]
[89:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[89:2] By the Dawn,
[89:3] And the Ten Nights,
[89:4] And the Even and the Odd,
[89:5] And the Night when it moves on to its end,
[89:6] Is there not in it a strong evidence for a man of understanding?
[89:7] Hast thou not seen how thy Lord dealt with Ad
[89:8] The tribe of Iram, possessors of lofty buildings,
[89:9] The like of whom have not been created in these parts
[89:10] And with Thamud who hewed out rocks in the valley,
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online
Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.
Regard
I give below The Holy Quran : Chapter 89: Al-Fajr: [1]
[89:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[89:2] By the Dawn,
[89:3] And the Ten Nights,
[89:4] And the Even and the Odd,
[89:5] And the Night when it moves on to its end,
[89:6] Is there not in it a strong evidence for a man of understanding?
[89:7] Hast thou not seen how thy Lord dealt with Ad
[89:8] The tribe of Iram, possessors of lofty buildings,
[89:9] The like of whom have not been created in these parts
[89:10] And with Thamud who hewed out rocks in the valley,
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online
Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.
Regard
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
I have so far quoted following twenty five short but full chapters from Quran in this thread:
Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where any of the verses of these twenty three Quranic chapters have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from.
We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Torah.
Quran is, therefore, the Word Revealed from G-d and authored by Him and is original.
Regards
I have so far quoted following twenty five short but full chapters from Quran in this thread:
Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where any of the verses of these twenty three Quranic chapters have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from.
We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Torah.
Quran is, therefore, the Word Revealed from G-d and authored by Him and is original.
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Is reality a function of history?
I don't think so.
Reality was there when history was not yet born.
Regards
Aamer
Truth Seeker
These aren't historical documents. Your argument is lost on people of faith. Historically, you can't prove ANYTHING from ANY religion. But just because something wasn't historically documented, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. My personal opinion... All organized religions are truth mixed with falsehood. But I have my reasons for thinking that. However, they can't prove said events DID happen. And you can't prove they did NOT happen.
Aamer
Truth Seeker
Zoroastrianism existed long before 622BC. Not monotheistic?
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
I agree with what I have colored in magenta.
History/Historians do not have a list of all humans born into this world from inception to check from it whether an individual existed or not , for instance Ibrahim existed or not . They could just give an opinion that could be 100% wrong in this connection.
Have they got such a list?
For sure they don't have.
Regards
outhouse
Atheistically
faulty reasoning on many levels = fail
Ok so none of the events are historical, so what your saying is it is all mythology.
The bible is used as a historical documents
why is your book exempt
outhouse
Atheistically
Fail again. I was in context talking about the Abrahamic deity, and monotheism is Judaism, but thanks.
Zoroastrianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Zoroastrianism only enters recorded history in the mid-5th century BCE.