Is Science Better Than Religion?

[Marisa]

That's why we chat reasonably on forums, express ideas, inspirations, share knowledge, collectively. We all lack awareness of something is some areas. I'm happy that you're humble enough to admit that. As am I.

Some of science doesn't assume. There is biased and stubborn science also. Science doesn't have knowledge of everything and is limited. They are fine with that. I, individually am not fine with limiting myself and being hindered to rules, regulations, and assumptions because an entity has not yet discovered or defined. I am my own self. Being conscious and aware is the best evidence to anything, and the only thing one can be sure of.

I don't assume that you do or don't know science, please don't think or assume that.

It does prove that we are energy, communicate via energy, and everything is based upon energy.

Lol, I'll put your name on the application as a recommendation.

You seem like a much more philosophically inclined person that I am. I don't care for philosophy, I like things simple. I tend to take an Einstein-ish attitude (if you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough) and as best I can tell, philosophy is the great obfuscater.

 

[Unification]

You seem like a much more philosophically inclined person that I am. I don't care for philosophy, I like things simple. I tend to take an Einstein-ish attitude (if you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough) and as best I can tell, philosophy is the great obfuscater.

Much respect for that. The less we know, and the more simplistic something is, the more at peace and content we are. Just being in the present. Much more fulfillment. The simple things in life.

 

[suncowiam]

I say...there is no glory in being human.

Hopefully heaven won't mind too much....the fault.

Isn't this another form of pascal's wager?

How am I to know that there exists a heaven when no man can prove this?

Very unfair me thinks to start living a lifestyle that has no foundation outside of a book and blind faith.

 

[Unification]

Isn't this another form of pascal's wager?

How am I to know that there exists a heaven when no man can prove this?

Very unfair me thinks to start living a lifestyle that has no foundation outside of a book and blind faith.

Heaven is a state of consciousness. Peace and bliss, rest in mind. You can know that state of conscious bliss exists!

 

[Unification]

Heaven is a state of consciousness. Peace and bliss, rest in mind. You can know that state of conscious bliss exists!

And you don't even need a book or blind faith for that. All you need is yourself and it's free.

 

[suncowiam]

Heaven is a state of consciousness. Peace and bliss, rest in mind. You can know that state of conscious bliss exists!

This is another semantics debate...

It's your perception which you can verbalize any which way you want.

Thief's assertion of heaven is, I'm assuming, more literal when referenced by a specific body of text. Or I can let Thief correct me on that.

 

[Unification]

This is another semantics debate...

It's your perception which you can verbalize any which way you want.

Thief's assertion of heaven is, I'm assuming, more literal when referenced by a specific body of text. Or I can let Thief correct me on that.

Semantics debating won't provide peace of mind. It is my perception and I find great joy and peace and have no need. Anyone can.
Carry on with Thief. Thanks for the response.

 

[suncowiam]

Semantics debating won't provide peace of mind. It is my perception and I find great joy and peace and have no need. Anyone can.
Carry on with Thief. Thanks for the response.

Hey, I get it... Being spiritual brings many people peace of mind, happiness, confidence...

I'm totally cool with that. I used be much more spiritual but I've now found other methods to bring me happiness.

What I don't think is cool is when the duality of religion starts asserting arbitrary sins on the whole population without further real-life evidence.

If one wants to say that homosexuality is wrong, let's prove it with real-life examples. If one is going to assert to me that heaven exists in the afterlife and I have to live a "forced" lifestyle to reach heaven, then they better prove this to me. I'm not going to force my life to some made up mantra and neither should others that don't believe the same ideals.

Don't preach to me if it cannot be proven.

 

[Thief]

Isn't this another form of pascal's wager?

How am I to know that there exists a heaven when no man can prove this?

Very unfair me thinks to start living a lifestyle that has no foundation outside of a book and blind faith.

I don't believe you are blind.
(I have been...seven days)
(different meanings)

 

[gnostic]

Heaven is a state of consciousness. Peace and bliss, rest in mind. You can know that state of conscious bliss exists!

For others, like to all Muslims, and for most Christians, heaven is a literal place, which one go to after they die here, as a reward for obedience or adherence to some scriptures or other forms of "teachings", and belief and worship of some divine beings.

Some Christians do think as you do, that heaven and hell are nothing more than state of "mind" instead of places in the afterlife.

But to me, the state of consciousness or state of mind, only exist within one's own brain. Consciousness have no place outside of the brain.

Animals may have consciousness, but I don't think the universe or the cosmos have one.

As to god(s), I don't know if they exist or not, but I do find it highly unlikely. There are no evidences for the existence of god.

 

[paarsurrey]

Science and religion both are useful for human beings in their relative domains.
Regards

 

[suncowiam]

I don't believe you are blind.
(I have been...seven days)
(different meanings)

Sorry I don't know what you mean...

 

[Thief]

Sorry I don't know what you mean...

You are able to see what I can see.

When you post .... you don't know what I mean....
It's as if you won't look.

 

[Thief]

I say science is all fine and good when focused to the mechanics of this world and it's chemistry.

I then say....it is creation....science studies the creation....
and the creation is a reflection of it's Creator.

 

[McBell]

You are able to see what I can see.

When you post .... you don't know what I mean....
It's as if you won't look.

yes.
It must be because he isn't looking.

I mean, it isn't like it is even possible that you botched that presentation to the point of worthlessness, could it?

In your attempt to come across as all mystical, you mangle the point you try to convey.

Cue the dogmatic denial

 

[Nakosis]

Depends on what you want to accomplish.

Science provides validation, proof to support theories and gain acceptance among peers.
Religion provides other things, like a sense of security, direction, purpose. A path or goal towards spiritual development.

Religion is for my benefit. Science is for the benefit of others, so I can prove I'm right about something. Religion is just about my personal experience and growth. Not to go out there and prove something to someone else.

 

[Thief]

yes.
It must be because he isn't looking.

I mean, it isn't like it is even possible that you botched that presentation to the point of worthlessness, could it?

In your attempt to come across as all mystical, you mangle the point you try to convey.

Cue the dogmatic denial

But you got the 'point'......didn't you?

cue the plea of ignorance....

 

[DawudTalut]

Is Science Better Than Religion?

It's an interesting question. Lots of people would say yes. Lots would say no.

But the question of whether science is better than religion is not a question scientists would necessarily ask. 'Better' or 'Worse' are, really, unscientific terms that don't carry much in the way of information beyond emotional predisposition.

So what question should we ask instead?

'Is Science a a more effective/efficient/appropriate method for solving problems than religion?'

The answer is: Yes, in many areas. But not all.

The reality is that neither religion nor science is better than the other. Simply, science is more effective at solving problems in many areas than religion.

If a man has no arm, no amount of prayer in the world will grant him a new arm. Only science can develop prosthetics and robotics that will replace a missing limb.

If a country requires food aid as the result of a natural disaster, religion may be more efficient at generating food donations to help that country than science, at least in the current systems we have.

One day science may overtake religion as more effective and appropriate systems are developed that make charity obsolete, but neither religion or science is better than the other - one is simply more efficient at solving problems.

Science is work of God.
Religion is word of same God.
Both are essentials.

"...Any divide between revelation and rationality, religion and logic has to be irrational. If religion and rationality cannot proceed hand in hand, there has to be something deeply wrong with either of the two...."
Ahmadiyya-Muslim Resource: Al Islam -Revelation, Rationality, Knowledge and Truth

 

[outhouse]

Science is work of God.

No science is factually never been the work of any deity. That's would be the same as saying my god does not know what he is doing so he has to study his work to figure out what he has done.

Science is factually the study of nature by man.

Maybe you would like to read the definition of science and figure out just what it actually is?

Religion is word of same God.

Factually only humans have wrote words on papyrus and books and clay and stone. Religion is factually the word of man.

Both are essentials.

No, only science is essential. Without it you die. Without your religion you might actually learn more then you now, because you will stop attributing things that are natural to your deity giving you a more full experience of nature and knowledge .

 

[Ben Dhyan]

No science is factually never been the work of any deity. That's would be the same as saying my god does not know what he is doing so he has to study his work to figure out what he has done.

Science is factually the study of nature by man.

Maybe you would like to read the definition of science and figure out just what it actually is?

Factually only humans have wrote words on papyrus and books and clay and stone. Religion is factually the word of man.

No, only science is essential. Without it you die. Without your religion you might actually learn more then you now, because you will stop attributing things that are natural to your deity giving you a more full experience of nature and knowledge .

The Cosmos is the manifestation of God....therefore all cosmic activity including the science of mankind is of God as it is a part of the manifestation. That the secular world carries on as though there is no God does not affect the truth..... there is nothing that happens, not even a sparrow that falls from the sky, that is not known by the on high...

Your position is as if when a radio was first shown to a primitive culture of man, they imagine that the voice is originating from within the little box, for they have no idea of the concept of electro-magnetic radiation and that the voice is only being relayed....likewise the prophecies of religion articulated by man, originated from on high...

Your conclusion that religious folk see science as unessential is just absurd, religious folk have always been at the forefront of science....