Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
It is essential for you to understand that words are being used only as an expedient to convey an idea....the 'real'** is on the other side of the words...One does not need an adjective to describe reality. Reality describes itself properly without any further description.
One's perception of reality can never be relied on. That's why in science, as you know and from our previous discussions, we have tools that measure reality indiscriminately. Tools to measure mass, speed, lengths, direction, volume, time... Then we clearly define the potential errors in each tool with a range of precision. Science is clear on this. Religion is not. When two different entities at different locations and times measure their realities with these tools, the science will suggest that it will follow very strict one-to-one correlations otherwise known as laws and theories. There are cases of probabilities as defined in Quantum Mechanics, but over and over, each subsequent tests produce the same known results.
This precision is absolutely needed in today's technologies from computers to vehicles to architecture.
Back to the OP...
Suggest a specific goal and one can better answer if science or religion is better.
* Is it to measure the carbon dioxide amount in our atmosphere? -> Science
* Develop a smaller die process for next generation computing devices that generates less heat and consume less energy? -> Science
* Develop transportation that is not dependent on fossil fue? -> Science
* How to deal with your day-to-day stress and conflicts? -> For some religion. For others, a mix of mental exercises and perspective control...
Take the case of the concept of reality...what does it represent....the reality it represents is not the concept, for concepts are not real except as mental constructs that serve as a symbol, a sign post if you like..to point the way to the real on the other side...
So there is actual reality that is real...and there is the conceptual reality...the theories, the language, the mathematics, the formulas, etc... that serve to represent the real...
** It is true that this is still a word, still a concept....but as explained, in this case my words are only used to convey to you that words are illusionary...every one interprets what they mean as individuals...