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is suicide moral?
- Thread starter kashmir
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Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
I see no problem with suicide. It's just as selfish to perform it as it is to claim people committing suicide is selfish.
kashmir
Well-Known Member
Huh?
that doesn't even make sense.
So, if someone is in unexplainable pain, it's selfish for them to end it?
MD
qualiaphile
Depends on whom you ask. Since liberals don't believe in morality such a question wouldn't apply to them. Some religious groups see it as immoral, while in Japan it was seen as honorable for centuries. I'm not sure how it is seen now.
I personally see it as immoral because I believe that every human has the potential to achieve their dreams and not give up.
I personally see it as immoral because I believe that every human has the potential to achieve their dreams and not give up.
kashmir
Well-Known Member
So if they dont matter, it's ok?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Over the years I've completely changed my mind on doctor-assisted suicide. I was strongly apposed to it, but a couple of experiences changed my mind.
One is when my dog came down with cancer and was beginning to really suffer. Even though we had no intention at first to put him down, neither my wife nor I could stand to see him suffer any longer.
A second influence was a movie starring Richard Dreyfus that was based on a true story whereas he was a patient who wanted to die but the hospital and courts wouldn't allow for it. Generally speaking, a movie wouldn't have that much of an influence on my feeling of right and wrong, but it really forced me to think this carefully through in terms if what right should I or others have to tell another adult that they can't go?
One is when my dog came down with cancer and was beginning to really suffer. Even though we had no intention at first to put him down, neither my wife nor I could stand to see him suffer any longer.
A second influence was a movie starring Richard Dreyfus that was based on a true story whereas he was a patient who wanted to die but the hospital and courts wouldn't allow for it. Generally speaking, a movie wouldn't have that much of an influence on my feeling of right and wrong, but it really forced me to think this carefully through in terms if what right should I or others have to tell another adult that they can't go?
kashmir
Well-Known Member
Movies lie bro
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
There are things worse than dying.
In exceptional circumstances suicide may be appropriate.
In exceptional circumstances suicide may be appropriate.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
That's really not the point.
kashmir
Well-Known Member
True that
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Wait a bit. Someone is bound to say it. It's all I've ever heard from my Christian community.
MD
qualiaphile
I would have to agree with this, in some exceptional cases suicide is warranted.
Sees
Dragonslayer
It's more likely to be OK, yep. Morality generally deals with relationships and interactions.
Stephen Dedalus
Trickster
Immoral? Why?
If someone must live just suffering, why live? From my point of view, euthanasia is right if the suicide can't longer live nevermore without the help of the machines, or can't nevermore improve his life.
If someone must live just suffering, why live? From my point of view, euthanasia is right if the suicide can't longer live nevermore without the help of the machines, or can't nevermore improve his life.
Some people turn to philosophy for a reason not to commit suicide, but they are mistaken as they think philosophy is a bunch of false excuses to make them feel good.
kashmir
Well-Known Member
I agree
The law just re-labels it
Yep
No one is tempting anyone
SkylarHunter
Active Member
I can understand that sometimes dying seems better than being alive, it is certainly easier in comparison to what some people go through, but suicide means giving up on the gift of life and no, that doesn't seem moral to me.
For someone to be that desperate things have to be really bad but I like to think there must be another option.
For someone to be that desperate things have to be really bad but I like to think there must be another option.
kashmir
Well-Known Member
Not really, sometimes, we run out of options