Because of my severe depression and social anxiety, yes. I have to look into getting on disability because I don't really understand you're supposed to get on it.
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is suicide moral?
- Thread starter kashmir
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Because of my severe depression and social anxiety, yes. I have to look into getting on disability because I don't really understand you're supposed to get on it.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
I don't think this is off topic at all, because depression and suicide are related.
Depression...... do you have 'highs' as well as 'lows'?
Social Anxiety...... How does this affect you? Can you go shopping? Could you travel on a Coach? etc?
kashmir
Well-Known Member
I can only speak fro myself, I dont have highs.
99.99 ecent of my time trying to make later better.
I cant explain it but, right now, right now!!! I am only planning later on.
With me, there is never no right now ever, I dont even have a right now.
I am already trying to figure out what tomaoorw means
Right now, is about tomarrow,
no one gets that
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no one gets that and it sucks so much
Highs? You mean manic episodes? No. I'm not bipolar. I have a therapist and a psych nurse, and am on an antidepressant.
As for social anxiety, I rarely go outside or leave the apartment alone. I have panic attacks, too.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
I can only speak fro myself, I dont have highs.
99.99 ecent of my time trying to make later better.
I cant explain it but, right now, right now!!! I am only planning later on.
With me, there is never no right now ever, I dont even have a right now.
I am already trying to figure out what tomaoorw means
Right now, is about tomarrow,
no one gets that
:9
no one gets that and it sucks so much
Tomorrow. Tonight I dread tomorrow on a scale of 10/10.
The consultants are all very interested in my wife. Many of her glands will shoot many times more hormones than ever needed into her system, just like that. Most sufferers die before they are discovered. They found my wife's condition by accident a few weeks ago.
Tomorrow I take her to London for an operation to remove some tumours and some glands. And then her system will go crazy. Her blood pressure will shoot up into the high 200's, and then, whilst they are trying to stabilise it, her BP will crash........ She will be in Critical care unit for at least 72 hours, and more likely ten days. I do not look forward to tomorrow, or the next fortnight.
That said, I must get to bed so that I can rise at 4am for the journey ...... I would like to hang around longer, believe me, but I must sleep.....
Good luck, you all, and may you all find peace asap.
Wish us luck.....
'Night, badger.
kashmir
Well-Known Member
Tomorrow. Tonight I dread tomorrow on a scale of 10/10.
The consultants are all very interested in my wife. Many of her glands will shoot many times more hormones than ever needed into her system, just like that. Most sufferers die before they are discovered. They found my wife's condition by accident a few weeks ago.
Tomorrow I take her to London for an operation to remove some tumours and some glands. And then her system will go crazy. Her blood pressure will shoot up into the high 200's, and then, whilst they are trying to stabilise it, her BP will crash........ She will be in Critical care unit for at least 72 hours, and more likely ten days. I do not look forward to tomorrow, or the next fortnight.
That said, I must get to bed so that I can rise at 4am for the journey ...... I would like to hang around longer, believe me, but I must sleep.....
Good luck, you all, and may you all find peace asap.
Wish us luck.....
prays for u
Dude, really. Don't kill yourself or hurt yourself. Please, don't. People care about you. So does your kitty, Max. I know what it's like. If you hang in there, it does get better. Life is too precious to throw away. :hug:
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By the way, I have 3 cats. One of them just so happens to be named Max. Small world, eh?
Small world, eh? 
omnifarious
Acolyte of Revelation
Very moral. It cleanses the gene pool.
I think we should definately try and help someone who is in such a dark place. As someone who as been there I know sometimes thats what you need, even if you may not realize it yourself.
And for the record I dont consider suicide immoral. Its very tragic, though.
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Due to passed experiences I tend to relate suicide to depression. If thats not what you meant, sorry for missunderstanding.
And just so no one think I have lost someone, I havent. Have just seen what depression can do.
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I hope for the best!Tomorrow. Tonight I dread tomorrow on a scale of 10/10.
The consultants are all very interested in my wife. Many of her glands will shoot many times more hormones than ever needed into her system, just like that. Most sufferers die before they are discovered. They found my wife's condition by accident a few weeks ago.
Tomorrow I take her to London for an operation to remove some tumours and some glands. And then her system will go crazy. Her blood pressure will shoot up into the high 200's, and then, whilst they are trying to stabilise it, her BP will crash........ She will be in Critical care unit for at least 72 hours, and more likely ten days. I do not look forward to tomorrow, or the next fortnight.
That said, I must get to bed so that I can rise at 4am for the journey ...... I would like to hang around longer, believe me, but I must sleep.....
Good luck, you all, and may you all find peace asap.
Wish us luck.....
I dont know if I had a depression, but I was in a very dark place a few years back. Much better now. Had a friend who was far worse of then me, though. That friend even tried to end it. Failed. Thought everyone talked **** because of it. I didnt. I cried. I cared. When the dark voice whispers in your ear, its hard to see that its all lies. So how did it go? My friend actually got over it and is alive and well
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You have nothing to be sorry about
That's wonderful! I'm so glad you and your friend saw through the lies and are still here.
I know what it's like to have "dark voices" whispering in my ear. You really have to fight against them. It's all lies. We matter and we're precious. Suicide never just kills one person. :hug:
It does get better, I know. I have seen it first hand. And lived through it myself. Life is indeed too precious to throw away! Especially when we have cats.
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I like cats, ok. They are cute and just plain awesomeness.
Obs, deleted my post because I got this fear of telling too much about people, lol. Happen to have very poorly working social breaksThat's wonderful! I'm so glad you and your friend saw through the lies and are still here.
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. So I figured I was telling too much again and deleted it. But given your response, I might have been too fast . I tend to confuse myself rather easily, lol.EDIT:
"The dark voice" is the name I have given to my own demons. The dark voice that sounds so rational, so logical, but whos only purpose is my complete destruction. The dark voice I should never listen to. May sound a little weird to others, but it helps me to think of it that way. Helps me keep my issues in perspective. Havent told anyone that before, lol. As I said, I have very poor social breaks
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Obs, deleted my post because I got this fear of telling too much about people, lol. Happen to have very poorly working social breaks
I'm sorry. I don't think it was TMI. I mean, you didn't name names or go into specifics. Do you want me to edit it out?
"The dark voice" is the name I have given to my own demons. The dark voice that sounds so rational, so logical, but whos only purpose is my complete destruction. The dark voice I should never listen to. May sound a little weird to others, but it helps me to think of it that way. Helps me keep my issues in perspective. Havent told anyone that before, lol. As I said, I have very poor social breaks
What you're saying isn't weird to me at all. With my spiritual views, I'm inclined to think that they are literal demons. One time, in the depths of suicidal depression, I "heard" taunting, laughing voices saying horrible things. It was very strange. I am not one to suffer psychotic breaks or delusions so I don't know what to say about that. Anyway, that's just my opinion.
atheistsincesix
New Member
Even if you are Christian, you technically could still go to heaven if you die while praying.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Well let's look at extreme cases. Such as people with neurological and debilitating diseases. Some of them want to kill themselves.
Is it moral to force them to live with a disease that robs them of their dignity and self-respect?
People talk about the sanctity of life. But what about the dignity of life?
If you're hearing "dark voices", there are several medical treatments that are highly recommended.
Nah, no worried
.I dont personally believe in demons, I just use them as a metaphorical term for my issues. In all honesty, its just me and my thoughts. It just helps me to think of those thoughts that way.