A particularly presumptious, self-entitled form of it, yes.
You're doing yourself. don't you preach to Atheism ?
I don't think so. I do defend the
right to Atheism, which is something else entirely.
Most of people who are involved in religion debate tries to proof that other belief is wrong.
True...
if they have spent too much time around Abrahamics, particularly Muslims. Not otherwise.
Most religions know better than to waste their energies with such a pointless goal.
In that respect, Islaam looks real bad when compared with true religions. It gives every indication of being either
unaware of religion or else to be actually
opposed to its practice.
It's about to attract the other to be convinced with your belief.
At any certain time, There is only one true belief.
That, there is no way to say it gently, is quite the childish, immature approach towards belief.
I expect the average 12 years old child to overgrow that attitude, unless he or she happens to live among adults that insist on keeping such an attitude and demanding it of each other.
It is the
civilized call.
All beliefs and religions are wrong except for Islamic belief.
A Jew or a Christian will say the same.
Most actually do not. People have the means to learn and grow in their spirituality, and one of the early landmarks is the ability to understand and respect the need for freedom and variety of belief.
If one doesn't say that, then he doesn't know his belief very well.
Very few people besides Muslims would even consider saying such a thing these days.
What I see, an atheist who is very anxious with Islam, somehow strong with Christianity, but very weak with Judaism
As one would expect. Reciprocity ethics demands people to give back in kind.
I'm sorry. You lost the native judge on moral and ethics.
You should be sorry, but not for me, and certainly not for whatever fantasy you mean to speak of above.
The only constructed way is to apply the Laws.
Laws are only tools. They are inherently inferior to the discernment and good will of actual people. That has always been true and will always be.
It will not go. If such allegations against Mariam is famous in town. Husband will not stay away from these rumors. He should have learnet by a way or another. Then he wouldn't keep silent.
That is presuming quite a lot about a community that is centuries removed from you and even from your scripture.
With all due respect, there is no reason whatsoever why I should accept that as having any truth to it. Particularly when there is so much evidence to the contrary.
They were not in est in 20-21 century.
True.
We Muslim, absolutely not.
Don't you even realize that you are putting the lie to that yourself? You created a separate thread for that very purpose very recently, even.
What is written in Judaic/Christian books and history is just for info has no credibility unless it agrees with Quran and Hadeeth.
I believe the Americans have a nice saying to use in such situations as this. Something about taking a ride, IIRC.
You are saying flat out that you will only believe the Qur'an and the Hadeeth... and you fail to see how offensive and ridiculous that is?
Right there, you are giving up on any expectations of respect towards your claims. You better be aware of that.
Other than the debate purpose for a very few Muslims like me. All Muslims are neither read, interested,,, of any of these books and belief.
Sometimes it's just for fun to say you what there is something interesting in previous books
That is not very difficult to see. And it reflects badly on Islaam and Muslims.
I wish more Muslims took that to the logical consequence, read more of the Qur'an, and learned of its true quality and limitations.
That would do a lot towards improving the overall situation of humanity, as people realized that they have been hoping in vain for the Qur'an to be far better, far wiser than it can even ever be.
My point is at a certain date, even Christians were not interested in Talmud stories about Jesus as a response to your saying that both were seeking to question Jews about Jesus
You seem to be somewhat confused about the relationship between Judaism and Christianity here.
Considering that the very Gospels make a point of slandering the Jewish People in order to further the myth of Jesus, the question is rather why Christians ever had any interest in the Talmud's view of Jesus...
Whatever.
I mean no agreement and if we keep discussing for years, you'll not change your mind.
I would like to hope that claims of divine exception will never convince me, indeed.
It is slightly annoying to think that people might mistake me for someone who
could be convinced so easily, as a matter of fact. I would expect better. But I guess not everyone had the opportunity to learn about respect towards other people.
As I said you've lost the pure native sense of good and bad.
That is quite the piece of presumption. It would be insulting if I bothered to dive into such levels of immaturity, which I do not.
I'm one Muslim who don't translate Allah's name.
There is one Creator, his name is Alalh.
He's the god of all people.
Allah chose Mosa, Isa, and Mohamed.
Allah created the Ten commandments, said Torah, revealed Quran, revealed Injiil to Isa.
What you are saying is that you find it confortable to misrepresent Judaism and Christianity both in order to protect the claims of Islaam.
That is presumptous and disrespectful, and will be treated as such.
