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Is the Bible too Contradictory for All of it to be True?

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The evil tradition that people so far can't shake is believing The Bible is something to believe IN and that it was never tampered with.

Too, too bad you all weren't there to stop all tampering.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
I do not disagree with anything you have said in that post above.
I understand that living God's way is right and it is an advertisement for living God's way.

Romans 10:14-15How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"

That scripture might be the reason someone changed Matthew 28:19 and put to make there. I agree with you that only The Holy Spirit can make a disciple and a disciple is a student of The Lord.

Thank you that you have conversed with me here. God bless you.

Thanks SW. I enjoy discussing the Bible, especially with those who want to get down to the nitty gritty. I am sure this isn't our last encounter. Eph 1:3 tells me how much God has blessed me and you.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Thanks SW. I enjoy discussing the Bible, especially with those who want to get down to the nitty gritty. I am sure this isn't our last encounter. Eph 1:3 tells me how much God has blessed me and you.
I should eliminate that last post.

God has blessed me? But, you say I have the devil. I should not call that blessed. Should you?
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
The evil tradition that people so far can't shake is believing The Bible is something to believe IN and that it was never tampered with.

Too, too bad you all weren't there to stop all tampering.

. God made sure the canon was like he wanted it and like we needed it.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
I have hearing aids. A skilled technician tested me and she adjusted the little computer in them.
She had a helper.

The Bible* says the helper got me hearing aids. She didn't. I could have got them whether the helper was there or not.

God's helpers are people who love Jesus. GOD makes them that way. People who love Jesus listen to him. They are disciples of him.

Please know that a disciple of Jesus is not also a disciple of Paul or of the Bible. 1 Corinthians 1:12-13

*God doesn't say that........The Holy Spirit doesn't it say that........the writer didn't say that........YOU ALL say that. I do not blame you @omega2xx , you are going with the crowd. I wonder how many people must agree that disciple is a verb before you would change your mind?

Disciple is a noun----discipling is a verb.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
One last word for now.

If Jesus said to be disciplining the nations most people will question what it means. Where? Who? When? How? Why? He does not say HOW and he does not say who should be doing it and when, if ever, they might be qualified to do it because you might teach someone something wrong and then they will become a disciple of your wrong teaching.


If he said to BE a disciple, it is simple. Know him, trust him, listen to him, believe him.

In my sentence above disciple is a noun. I do not know if Greek uses the verb "be". If yes, then I am right because it is missing there. If no, then you might be right and God is asking us to do God's job, which to most thinking people is ridiculous.
 
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fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
The levaritge marriage does explain it. Since you don't understand why, fine, it is time to move on.
It doesn't explain it. You mention only one place where it may explain anything, but that ignores the dozens of other discrepancies between the two genealogies. I understand you're reasoning; however, it doesn't mash up since there isn't one discrepancy, as you implied, but dozens.
This is my last response until you explain the allegory in Galatians.
I answered it in my second post to you. I'm breaking up my responses to you so that you can actually fully address a main point, and if you choose to, you can deal with the second longer post. The point I want to focus on is the discrepancies in the genealogies, as that was the first issue that we faced.
 

knh777

Member
Both true and without contradicting each other.
The Bible defines itself. And is clear when a metaphor or other speech type is used.
Watch videos by Chuck Missler, Id recommend his videos on you tube. He is one of the most sound I have found. Also Steve Cioccalanti on you tube.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There are no contradictions the Bible should be read in context as a whole.
We have been talking about what disciple means. The Bible says it means to make disciples for Jesus. John had disciples. Were the disciples of John for making more disciples for John?
 
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