If it doesn't mean that Jesus comes to people and actually communicates truth to them, then tell us oh master of Bible understanding what it does mean.
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Is the Bible too Contradictory for All of it to be True?
- Thread starter Sunstone
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The question was not addressed to me but I will try to answer it.
How do I know that what I hear comes from God?
I don't.
How do you know what you hear comes from God?
Sorry I clicked the wrong post.
I don't know what comes from God. I do know that everything that comes from God furthers love.
It is my opinion that many things written do not further love. Those I call suspect.
As a matter of fact, it is written that Jesus said let the weeds grow with the wheat. The time is coming soon that the angels will throw the weeds in the fire. Whoever is linked to the weeds is going into the fire. Good luck in the fire.
I haven't found one. If you have, this would be the time to trot it out.
McBell
Unbound
I suspect you are talking about something completely different .
I just hit a wrong key and lost a msg I was sending to you. If I find it , I will continue it. If not, it wasn't that important.
If it is a post, it should have been auto saved. Did you send me a private message?
First of all Jesus did visit his people personally. That is His incarnation.
There is a famous painting of this verse but in the painting, the door only has one doorknob and it is on the inside.
Jesus knocking is a beautiful picture of what He wants to do---come back into the life of those who have shut Him out.
Some present this verse as an invitation for salvation. In my opinion it is not. This is not addressed to non-believers but to self deluded Christians. It is an invitation to return to God for the fellowship we enjoyed at one time.
Jesus continues to visit His people, but now it is a spiritual visit. His Spirit speaks to our spirit and guides us into the truth.
I think it is described in at least 2 verses.
In Eph 2:18 Paul prays that the eyes of their heart would be enlightened so the would know the things in vs 18-23. enlightment usually, maybe always, refers to understanding spiritual truths.
Col 2:11 tes us that in Jesus we were circumcised with a circumcision made with out hands. Christ had to visit us to do this, but He did not come in person and do it physically. IMO, the same thing is true of our being baptized with the Holy Spirit.
Hope that helps a little bit.
I do not know what I said that was any different than what you say.
@omega2xx I thought you posted this
because I posted that Jesus comes to us like Revelation 3:20 says.
I did.
Including Paul Lewis' response and the counterclaims by anonymous individuals. It is actually not a particularly strong case. The time period when it was released was during the control of a Military Junta that refused to yield power in what is arguably one of the poorest and most corrupt nations on the earth. A bag of rice will buy a child soldier, so how much can a 'witness' cost.
Setting aside both Lewis and the anonymous accounts, the facts on the former Burma are they had, have and will probably continue to have one of the lowest reproduction rates of any developing nation. This is not attributed to the terrorism of Baptist Missionaries, but the 1)late marriage age due to extreme poverty, 2) high number of voluntary abortions and 3) Budhist majority culture creating an acceptance of celibacy as a path to spiritual purity. These facts, unrelated to any human account, make the Lewis account that the sterilization was desirable far more likely that the counterclaim that in a nation of women who don't want babies, the Baptists found 20,000 who did to trick into sterilization.
You might want to dig a little deeper and show some healthy skepticism towards those opposed to Christianity as well as those supporting it. Burma does not pass the smell test.
Fortunately the Cultural Revolution came to Russia and China to eradicate the evil influence of Christianity.
How many people did those non-Christian efforts kill?
(You might want to look it up.).
[Hint: 30 million deaths by Mao; 7 million by Stalin]
God bless atheists for rescuing us from missionaries!
You might want to wait until the fat lady sings before you make such a nasty and ignorant remark. I guess this an example of liberal tolerance of all views, unless it is a view they dislike. How sad,
Evidently I have my wires crossed and missed something, In revelation 3:20 Jesus has come. In fact He never left. He has promised to never or forsake us. Now He is standing and waiting for us to invite Him back into our life. We all become prodigals from time to time.
I believe that. I posted Revelation 3:20 because you seem to espouse the Bible above the presence of the living God.
What does Jesus in your life DO?
He tells me what is true and what isn't true.....
....though most people use the Bible for that.
He tells me what is true and what isn't true.....
....though most people use the Bible for that.
God mainly speaks to Christians through His word. Sometime I probably hear what I want to hear, but I have learned over the years, that that is not the way to understand the Bible. If God says I have love my enemies, I don' like that, but I do believe that is what God wants me to do. I may not even do it, but that doesn't change what God has tole me to do.
No, I will take the presence of the the living God any time. But Jesus is God and He is also the Living Word.
Is a warning not an act of love? Is telling how to avoid the fire not an act of love? Did you tell you children not to touch a hot stove or let them find out from experience?
Are you talking to me? A warning is an act of love. Of course. Is discipline an act of love? Yes, of course. Is to be able to suffer for righteousness' sake an act of love? Yes!
I do not know what you hear me saying.
It seems you were saying God telling us about hell was not an act of love. Maybe I have my wires crossed again.
I just hit the wrong key again answering your post about 2 Pet 2:21. Sometime I can find them and sometimes I can't. If I don't answer tonight, I will try again tomorrow.