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Is The Hell Fire Justice

love

love

tri-polar optimist
~Amin~ said:
Because the purpose of our existence is that we have our priority right THAT WE
SERVE OUR LORD, this doesnt mean you become a monk no no we are encoureged
to enjoy this world also ,but dont forget the next life.
If the reason we are here is to worship GOD and you denie this indeed its the
greatest transgretion.
"YOU HAVE DONE AN ATROCIOUS THING .
THE HEAVENS ALMOST RUPTURE THEREFROM
AND THE EARTH SPLITS OPEN AND THE MOUNTAINS
COLAPES IN DEVASTATION,
THAT THEY ATTRIBUTE TO THE MOST MERCIFUL A SON.QURAN19:89,90,91.
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Oops! I hate it when that happens.
 
~Amin~

~Amin~

God is the King
MaddLlama said:
I'm still not understanding where fear comes into it. I don't think anyone wants to displease their Gods, but that doesn't mean we automatically need to be afraid of them. I want to make my family happy as well, but I don't fear my husband because I wonder if he'll like the meal I cooked.

I choose to honor my Gods, not fear them.
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Its only because you do not understand the greatness of God ,with all my
respect for you ,and also perhaps your understanding of fear eg,
some people may fear to loose there job or loose there spouse,
or may fear for the safety of there children or there right education,
or you may fear if you know someones gonna rob or hurt you.
After all thats been said how ca you fear the creation and not the Creator.
 
~Amin~

~Amin~

God is the King
love said:
Oops! I hate it when that happens.
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PEACE
I still sense unsincerity but any way,
the ter son of god in the holy bible and in its context means ane who
is obeidient close to God not literally.
MATHEW:5,9
MATHEW:5,43,45,48
JOHN8:42,44
JOHN 1:12
ROMANS 8:14 and theres many more id enjoy to share with you what GOD has
taught me all of you at once but ill leave you with this,
"O MANKIND, INDEED WE HAVE CREATED
YOU FROM MALE AND FEMALE AND MADE PEOPLES AND
TRIBES THAT YOU MAY KNOW ONEANOTHER.
INDEED THE MOST NOBLE OF YOU IN THE
SIGHT OF GOD IS THE MOST RIGHTEOUS.
not a specific race.
 
love

love

tri-polar optimist
There is plenty in this life to cause me anxiety. God is my only refuge. He has walked in my shoes. How can I fear my best friend.
 
love

love

tri-polar optimist
~Amin~ said:
PEACE
I still sense unsincerity but any way,
the ter son of god in the holy bible and in its context means ane who
is obeidient close to God not literally.
MATHEW:5,9
MATHEW:5,43,45,48
JOHN8:42,44
JOHN 1:12
ROMANS 8:14 and theres many more id enjoy to share with you what GOD has
taught me all of you at once but ill leave you with this,
"O MANKIND, INDEED WE HAVE CREATED
YOU FROM MALE AND FEMALE AND MADE PEOPLES AND
TRIBES THAT YOU MAY KNOW ONEANOTHER.
INDEED THE MOST NOBLE OF YOU IN THE
SIGHT OF GOD IS THE MOST RIGHTEOUS.
not a specific race.
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I didn't quite get that literal interpretation of yours.
But the fact that "We" created people from male and female is not a major revelation.
A virgin birth would take a little more thought.
 
~Amin~

~Amin~

God is the King
YmirGF said:
You obviously do not understand me in the slightest. I am one of those weirdo's who not only believes very deeply in the reality of God, but I also claim to have met a manifestion of God in the person of the Hindu aspect of God called Vishnu.

To humanize God is to say he is need of his own creation ie,
he needs to eat to sleep to go to the bath room and these
qualaties are NOT BEFITTING THE GLORY OR MAJESTY OF GOD.
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~Amin~

~Amin~

God is the King
love said:
I didn't quite get that literal interpretation of yours.
But the fact that "We" created people from male and female is not a major revelation.
A virgin birth would take a little more thought.
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Again if theres no sincerity there no use of discussion,
if the virgin birth is the most profound truth wich muslims accept and
believe than what do you say about Adam and Eve who had no
mother or father?
 
rojse

rojse

RF Addict
rojse said:
I do not see how being burned and tortured in hellfire for eternity can be justice. Whether it is for a finite amount of time is a different debate.

What about the fact that there is no possibility of rehabilitation, or earning forgiveness?

What crimes do you feel merit such a punishment?
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I didn't get any answers, and I thought I had asked several legitimate questions.
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
~Amin~ said:
I PRAY you stop contradicting yourself.
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Ok, Amin you have made me curious, lol. What on earth does your limited mind see as contradiction in what I say. Have you thought perhaps the contradictions exist only in YOUR mind?

YmirGF said:
Um... you are comparing your limited understanding to that of a physician and likewise comparing me to a fool who wishes to tell the doctor how to operate, lol. That is funny because surely you are jesting.
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~Amin~ said:
Not true im also comparing my self to a physician, but i can see you get little imotional and thats why you get confused therefore you may be excused.
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I get a little emotional, lol. Do you appreciate the simple fact that your sentence right above does not make sense in English? Why are you trying to say?
 
love

love

tri-polar optimist
Let me help! The main topic was "Is hell fire Justice".
If you did have the keys to hell, Amin, what would be you guide for justice?
 
YmirGF

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
~Amin~ said:
Im happy that your happy, but look at your second question it doesnt make sense.
Ithink your trying to run from the main topic.
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Ok, forget it, lol. I am not worthy of your brilliant mind or the senseless babble of the incoherent.

Back to Hellfire... Mmmmmm... endless torture and horror beyond imagination. What is there NOT to like? Tell me, Amin, how do you personally see Hellfire as being a useful concept? Please, do not use quotes from the Quran. Explain it in your own words. Why is the promise of Paradise and conversely the promise of HellFire a meaningful thing for a god to impose on his "servants" or "slaves"? Doesn't it sound more like something some insane man would dream up or is God really that incredibly petty in your estimation?
 
~Amin~

~Amin~

God is the King
YmirGF said:
Back to Hellfire... Mmmmmm... endless torture and horror beyond imagination. What is there NOT to like? Tell me, Amin, how do you personally see Hellfire as being a useful concept? Please, do not use quotes from the Quran. Explain it in your own words. Why is the promise of Paradise and conversely the promise of HellFire a meaningful thing for a god to impose on his "servants" or "slaves"? Doesn't it sound more like something some insane man would dream up or is God really that incredibly petty in your estimation?
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Its simply like this :
God is complete in all his attributes which He revealed of Himself and
one of these attributes is that His just, if a person who submits to God
helping people caring etc and a rappist or killer one who lived a purely
evil person died for them to go to the same place would be injustice.
SAY I AM ONLY A MAN LIKE YOU. IT HAS
BEEN REVEALED TO ME THAT YOUR GOD
IS ONE.
SO WHOEVER HOPES FOR THE MEETING
WITH HIS LORD LET HIM WORK RIGHTEOUSNESS
AND ASSOCIATE NONE AS A PARTNER IN THE
WORSHIP OF HIS LORD. QURAN 18:110
 
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