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Is the moon getting nearer ?

james blunt

Well-Known Member
Your equation makes no sense to the physics

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ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
I bet you didn´t dare to watch the video and contemplate its contents because it threaten your academic world view a la "The Emperors Cloth".

I spent some time watching and it was just someone ranting about mathematics and physics. I explained that his distaste for mathematical physics would apply just as much to engineering and you've just tried to sidestep the point by pretending it's just about cosmology.

I'll also repeat that he (and you) is objecting to some of the best tested theories in the history of science. The obviously universe doesn't care about human intuition and it acts (in every way we've been able to test so far) exactly as if these theories are correct.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
To go back to your previous mistake, the reason the moon would escape the earth tangentially, and in a straight line, is the same reason people throw the discus the way they do: Tangents and Circles
You cannot compare a discus thrower with the motions of the Earth and the Moon. As the Moon has it orbital motions around the Earth, there is NO WAY it can leave the Earth in a straight line.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
I spent some time watching and it was just someone ranting about mathematics and physics. I explained that his distaste for mathematical physics would apply just as much to engineering and you've just tried to sidestep the point by pretending it's just about cosmology.
This just reveals that you didn´t watch and contemplate the video contents at all. But maybe it takes some natural and philosophical skills in order to understand what he is discussing.
I´m not sidestepping anything here. I´m just underpinning that modern cosmology is totally lost but of course some of the modern science and calculations can be used in practical areas.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Yes it can , if it were to accelerate and ''slingshot''
The cause that the Moon has a locked orbit around the Earth, is that the Moon was born out of the then hot molten Earth and "sling shot" away from the Earth and this caused the orbital and "circular" motion in the first place. There is no straight lines involved here.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
You cannot compare a discus thrower with the motions of the Earth and the Moon. As the Moon has it orbital motions around the Earth, there is NO WAY it can leave the Earth in a straight line.

You can and it would. This is basic Newtonian mechanics. In both cases there is a force pulling the object towards the centre. When you remove that force, in continues in a straight line (Newton's first law) in the direction it was going in at the time - which is a tangent to the circular motion.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
I´m just underpinning that modern cosmology is totally lost but of course some of the modern science and calculations can be used in practical areas.

And you're still ignoring that, in both cases, the same theories work (they make predictions that are confirmed by observation and experiment).
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
The cause that the Moon has a locked orbit around the Earth, is that the Moon was born out of the then hot molten Earth and "sling shot" away from the Earth and this caused the orbital and "circular" motion in the first place. There is no straight lines involved here.

No, moons were once bodies traversing a linearity that passed to close to a larger mass getting caught in space-time curvature to make an orbiting body .

The bodies velocity not been enough to have escape velocity .
 

james blunt

Well-Known Member
You can and it would. This is basic Newtonian mechanics. In both cases there is a force pulling the object towards the centre. When you remove that force, in continues in a straight line (Newton's first law) in the direction it was going in at the time - which is a tangent to the circular motion.
F=N
 

ecco

Veteran Member
When a person cannot even do simple addition that person tends to make huge errors.

Learn some math, it is really not all that difficult.

Let's begin with the number line. When you take 5 and ad 3 that means that one starts at 5 on the number line and moves to the right (assuming that this number line increases to the right) three spaces or integers. One ends up at 8.

I am sure that you understand that.
Unwarranted optimism.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
ecco said:
You really took the time to try explaining that to him? Really?

Well someone has to. He is making fool of himself defending his incorrect answer.

I'm willing to bet that by the end of this thread, nothing will have changed.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Logics dont go away just because you can´t grasp the logics:)

Needlessly posting smiling faces in an online discussion is the same as inappropriately smiling during a face to face conversation. It is usually caused by embarrassment due to lying or confusion.
 
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