Is the moon getting nearer ?

[Native]

Are you complaining about Dark Matter now? You do realize that there is more evidence than just the rate of rotation of the galaxies that support that hypothesis. Dark Matter has been observed in the collisions of galaxies.
And I am sorry that you are threatened by math. Like it or not Einstein's theories have been confirmed countless times. You on the other hand have nothing. You are ranting against reality again.

There is NO evidence of "dark this or that" anywhere, Theoretical conventions and assumptions about circumstantial issues are NOT evidences, you know?
I´m not "threatened by math" or the by the conventional assumptions of Einsteins skewed idea of "curved space time". Math is just a picture of the momentary condition which changes eternally and therefore math is just a temporary crutch which constantly provides astrophysical surprises because nothing is constant at all and in an eternal motion.

 

[Native]

If you think the models being used are wrong (Newton, then refined by Einstein - Newton being perfectly good enough for most of the Solar system), why do they match reality so exactly? How come NASA can use them to send spacecraft right across the solar system? Coincidence? How come every experiment and observation we've been able to make, match the theories? Luck?

The thing is that the planetary motions have been known long before Newton was a twinkle in the eyes of his parents. Newton just speculated "gravity" and escape velocity into the geometric calculations of the planetary motions. In this sense Newton is completely irrelevant and his "escape velocity" could just as well be calculated from the actual atmospheric pressures and the weight of the vehicle.

As for Einstein, his "gravity ideas" and "curved space time" also is far out in pure speculations and scientific fairy tales.

 

[Native]

Not quite , the truth is we go back into the past , the original was an aether , then we have a Dirac sea , a Higgs field , then eventually space-time . All these things were actually discussing the same things , a quantum field . This field I have eventually described in intricate detail as the N-field .

I agree in the aether statement and "Dirac sea". The rest is just modern theoretical speculations derived from misconceptions and assumptions of the conditions in cosmos.

 

[ratiocinator]

The thing is that the planetary motions have been known long before Newton was a twinkle in the eyes of his parents. Newton just speculated "gravity" and escape velocity into the geometric calculations of the planetary motions.

Newton showed that just one law could account for planetary motions and the motion of things on Earth. It also allow NASA to calculate the trajectory of spacecraft and successful navigate in the solar system

So that really doesn't answer my question. Was that all just dumb luck, a coincidence?

As for Einstein, his "gravity ideas" and "curved space time" also is far out in pure speculations and scientific fairy tales.

Yet they make exact predictions that have been tested in many ways. The GPS system uses Einstein's equations to compensate for time dilation. Another coincidence, perhaps?

 

[Native]

Do you see the light green box? In that one you are told to test your idea with an experiment. That means you need to think of a test that could refute your idea. You seem to have trouble with this step. If you can't follow that flow chart you are not doing science.

He! I would like you to make tests of anything outside the Earth. So far everything cosmological outside the Earth are just pure assumptions and nothing else. Your theory of theory making is just another theory when it comes to cosmological matters.

 

[Subduction Zone]

hello readers , the people replying in this thread have no interest in science , their only aim is to stop me and bury the thread in useless irrelevant to the thread things .. These people are paid trolls, who attack anybody who attacks science , it is so obvious when their only aim is try to insult . Notice how they always avoid the science .

Science is wrong on loads of things and trying to hide the truth that they make up stuff that is false .


LIGHT HAS NO SPEED .............PERIOD .

I demand a raise!

 

[Native]

I don't need to know any maths to understand the work of the Universe and be able to design things that should work in accordance with those workings .

I totally agree in this Even our ancient ancestors knew of cosmos and creation of the Milky Way galaxy just by using their physical senses and intuitive skills. It´s just modern humans who are lost in all kinds of strange and unnatural speculations and then they think:

"Oh, cosmos and the Universe is VERY difficult to understand and it demands the kind of knowledge which is written in books".

 

[Subduction Zone]

He! I would like you to make tests of anything outside the Earth. Sp far everything outside the Earth are just pure assumptions and nothing else. Your theory of theory making is just another theory when it comes to cosmological matters.

What makes you think that we cannot test objects outside of the Earth?
You might have to make assumptions due to your lack of education. That does not mean that others have to do the same.

When you claim that others are making assumptions you take on the burden of proof to show that is what they are doing.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I totally agree in this Even our ancient ancestors knew of cosmos and creation of the Milky Way galaxy just by using their physical senses and intuitive skills. It´s just modern humans who are lost in all kinds of strange and unnatural speculations and then they think:

"Oh, cosmos and the Universe is VERY difficult to understand and it demands the kind of knowledge which is written in books".

And what evidence do you have to support this claim? In the past all you had was misinterpretation of myths. Perhaps you learned something recently.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There is NO evidence of "dark this or that" anywhere, Theoretical conventions and assumptions about circumstantial issues are NOT evidences, you know?
I´m not "threatened by math" or the by the conventional assumptions of Einsteins skewed idea of "curved space time". Math is just a picture of the momentary condition which changes eternally and therefore math is just a temporary crutch which constantly provides astrophysical surprises because nothing is constant at all and in an eternal motion.

Of course there is evidence for Dark Matter. And for Dark Energy as well. Now you have demonstrated that you do not even understand the concept of evidence.

Let's have a discussion on that and then we can cover the rest of the errors in this post.

 

[Native]

Newton showed that just one law could account for planetary motions and the motion of things on Earth. It also allow NASA to calculate the trajectory of spacecraft and successful navigate in the solar system
So that really doesn't answer my question. Was that all just dumb luck, a coincidence?

As said before Newton just superimposed his "apple-thoughts" on the already known planetary motions - and he NEVER explained what kind of "attractive dynamics which works at spooky distances". It´s just a speculative - and unnecessary - invention, and that´s all.

 

[Subduction Zone]

As said before Newton just superimposed his "apple-thoughts" on the already known planetary motions - and he NEVER explained what kind of "attractive dynamics which works at spooky distances". It´s just a speculative - and unnecessary - invention, and that´s all.

Here you once again take on a huge burden of proof. If all that Newton had was speculation then you would be able to come up with an explanation that works just as well. If you cannot it appears that you were lying when you claimed his work was speculation.

Perhaps your problem is that you do not understand the words that you are using.

 

[Native]

Of course there is evidence for Dark Matter. And for Dark Energy as well. Now you have demonstrated that you do not even understand the concept of evidence.

I´m not here just to entertain you and keep your indoctrinated idiosyncrasies going.
Dark Matter:
Dark matter is a hypothetical form of matter that is thought to account for approximately 85% of the matter in the universe, and about a quarter of its total energy density.

Do you know the term and definition of "HYPOTHETICAL"?

Your cosmological percistant attitude is pathetic because you have nothing to have your arguments in and you don´t fool me.

 

[ratiocinator]

As said before Newton just superimposed his "apple-thoughts" on the already known planetary motions - and he NEVER explained what kind of "attractive dynamics which works at spooky distances". It´s just a speculative - and unnecessary - invention, and that´s all.

How can it possibly be unnecessary, if it allows us to more accurately model reality (which both Newton's and Einstein's theories do)?

And you still aren't answering my question. These theories you don't like make astonishingly accurate predictions. New predictions of results nobody had tested before. Is that just luck?

 

[Native]

Perhaps your problem is that you do not understand the words that you are using.

Besservissen insults just reveals your lack of factual arguments. You don´t fool me.

 

[Native]

How can it possibly be unnecessary, if it allows us to more accurately model reality (which both Newton's and Einstein's theories do)?
And you still aren't answering my question. These theories you don't like make astonishingly accurate predictions. New predictions of results nobody had tested before. Is that just luck?

Just imagine Newton to never have been born. Ordinary geometric and mathematical interested humans could have calculated the very same on planetary motions as Newton, without speculating on the "spooky gravity" as a governing force - which it isn´t at all.

 

[james blunt]

I totally agree in this Even our ancient ancestors knew of cosmos and creation of the Milky Way galaxy just by using their physical senses and intuitive skills. It´s just modern humans who are lost in all kinds of strange and unnatural speculations and then they think:

"Oh, cosmos and the Universe is VERY difficult to understand and it demands the kind of knowledge which is written in books".

Some maths is important because it does have meanings and a good use but then there is some math that I personally do not need in my notions because they have no content meaning related to my notions .

 

[Subduction Zone]

I´m not here just to entertain you and keep your indoctrinated idiosyncrasies going.
Dark Matter:
Dark matter is a hypothetical form of matter that is thought to account for approximately 85% of the matter in the universe, and about a quarter of its total energy density.

Do you know the term and definition of "HYPOTHETICAL"?

Your cosmological percistant attitude is pathetic because you have nothing to have your arguments in and you don´t fool me.

Of course I understand the term hypothetical. You apparently do jot.

You will never get anywhere until you understand the concept of evidence. Here is a hint for you, the fact that something is hypothetical does not mean that there is not any evidence for it. In fact the term implies that there is evidence for the hypothetical concept.

You on the other hand believe concepts that are not supported by reliable.evidence at all. That goes a long way to explain your confusion.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Just imagine Newton to never have been born. Ordinary geometric and mathematical interested humans could have calculated the very same on planetary motions as Newton, without speculating on the "spooky gravity" as a governing force - which it isn´t at all.

Really? Then why hasn't anyone done so? You have demonstrated that you cannot do so. To me it appears that you do not like the math that you cannot understand.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Besservissen insults just reveals your lack of factual arguments. You don´t fool me.

Please don't lie about me. I can and have supported my claims. There was no insult in that post. Only an attempt to understand your incompetence when using certain terms. When you claim "speculation" that is a positive claim that you need to support with evidence when challenged. Your inability to do so only tells us that you have issues with those that can do the work that you apparently cannot do.

Though you could surprise the heck out of me and support one of your bogus claims some day.