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Is the moon getting nearer ?

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Just imagine Newton to never have been born. Ordinary geometric and mathematical interested humans could have calculated the very same on planetary motions as Newton, without speculating on the "spooky gravity" as a governing force - which it isn´t at all.

How would they have done that? That's a mathematical question by the way. To make your claim in the least bit credible, you should be able to demonstrate that there is a purely geometrical equivalent to all of Newton's laws.

I'll not hold my breath.

And you still haven't answered my question. Why do these theories make accurate predictions?
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Of course I understand the term hypothetical. You apparently do jot.
You will never get anywhere until you understand the concept of evidence. Here is a hint for you, the fact that something is hypothetical does not mean that there is not any evidence for it. In fact the term implies that there is evidence for the hypothetical concept.
You on the other hand believe concepts that are not supported by reliable.evidence at all. That goes a long way to explain your confusion.
Rubbish :) You just keep on with your pathetic and besservissen "arguments" from the tale of Emperors New Cloths.

You don´t fool me you know :)
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
And you still haven't answered my question. Why do these theories make accurate predictions?
Apparently you´re having huge troubles of leaving your gravity guru, so I just leave you to further speculations of your own.
BTW: Newtons gravitational ideas of celestial motions were DIRECTLY contradicted by the discovery and observation of the Galactic Rotation Curve. Newton´s spooky gravitation ideas are NOT Universal at all.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Rubbish :) You just keep on with your pathetic and besservissen "arguments" from the tale of Emperors New Cloths.

You don´t fool me you know :)
Your German needs some work too.

You and I both know that you have nothing. Your constant making false claims against others and then running away when challenged is not cooking anyone.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Supporting a claim with non sustained and concrete evidences is just nothing at all.
Please don't lie about others.

Once again since you do not understand the concept of evidence why don't we discuss it? You might learn something for once in your life.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Your German needs some work too.

You and I both know that you have nothing. Your constant making false claims against others and then running away when challenged is not cooking anyone.
My "German"??? So now it all comes up to language and grammar?

I´m NOT making false claims about others - I´m making legitimate claims against the systematical cosmological consensus nonsense.

But apparently you identify yourself that much with the standing cosmological consensus nonsense that you take it personally when the principles are questioned.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
My "German"??? So now it all comes up to language and grammar?

I´m NOT making false claims about others - I´m making legitimate claims against the systematical cosmological consensus nonsense.

But apparently you identify yourself that much with the standing cosmological consensus nonsense that you take it personally when the principles are questioned.

You constantly make false claims. Every time you claim "speculation" and run away that is a false claim. You are making claims that you cannot support .

Try again.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
You constantly make false claims. Every time you claim "speculation" and run away that is a false claim. You are making claims that you cannot support .
Try again.
You mean as when standard cosmology claims that the "dark rubbish matter" is physically found?

You don´t fool me you know :)
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
I can concur that is so true of most science forums. They don't see it as you're trying to advance things , they see it as a threat for no just reason .
Precisely! And that´s the most pathetic of it all. Every time anyone come up with alternative ideas, the whole standard text book bunch goes mad because it threatens their very dogmatic identity.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Precisely! And that´s the most pathetic of it all. Every time anyone come up with alternative ideas, the whole standard text book bunch goes mad because it threatens their very dogmatic identity.
You need ideas supported by evidence, and you do not understand that concept either.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
You need a new mantra. May I suggest that just because you do not understand something that does not make it"rubbisn".
I could suggest the very same principle for you in every account.

You don´t fool me you know :)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I could suggest the very same principle for you in every account.

You don´t fool me you know :)
Please even you have to know that you are wrong. The only way you can preserve your views is by running away.

Though you could surprise me and show me to be wrong. Are you still afraid to discuss the nature of evidence?
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
No, unlike you I can support my claims. You run away when challenged to support your beliefs.
You can take off with shoving me the FACTUAL and CONCRETE evidence of your "dark matter" claims and we´ll take it from there.

In the mean time you can study the contents here - This should keep you occupied for the rest of your life.

You can´t fool me you know :)
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Try again in English.

But as long as you do not understand the nature of evidence you will never understand the factual and concrete.
He he he :) :) :) Who is now running away when challenged to support your beliefs and claims? :) :) :)

OK, then I just conclude that you cannot meet your own claims of evidence. So much for your cosmological principles. That´s just TOO FUNNY :) :) :)

Remember to read and contemplate your linked lecture - Thanks for nothing at all :) :) :)
 
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