Is the Religious Right in America gunning for you?

[InChrist]

Don't understand your question?

Should laws prohibiting murder, child abuse or theft be rescinded because they address moral/immoral behavior?

 

[Father Heathen]

No. I support some regulations like not selling to minors.

So why not the same for cannabis, which is significantly less harmful and dangerous than alcohol? Your judgment is inconsistent and arbitrary. Think critically and objectively rather than swallow spoon-fed propaganda.

 

[Father Heathen]

Should laws prohibiting murder, child abuse or theft be rescinded because they address moral/immoral behavior?

Those actions victimize and violate the rights/freedoms of others.

Think, kid. Think.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Thank you, that was very interesting. I don’t give any credence to the Catholic Church or Thomas Aquinas, though. Just another bit of information to substantiate my departure from Catholicism years ago was the right decision.

Yeah, you have your faith. And other Christians do it differently. Now what?

 

[InChrist]

Well, He's had oodles more than ample time to do so -- and so far seems to have chosen not to bother. Kind of hard to explain, really.

It's like, if you have kids, will you only let them know directly that you are their father once they're dead -- but they'd better have done everything correctly, according to the people who tell those kids what it is you want (because you didn't want to tell them yourself)?"

I dunno, but I really find this sort of odd...

But how many people choose to ignore God and never actually seek to ask Him directly for directions, wisdom, answers, etc.? Because they don’t want to hear from God. It appears that most people (and I include myself) often, if not all the time do not want to know what God thinks because we want to do our own thing. How often is God blamed or accused of letting all the bad things happen and yet never even acknowledged or thanked for the good things?

 

[Father Heathen]

Absolutely not.

You want to deny people various rights and freedoms due to some spooky superstitions, so yes.

 

[InChrist]

Those actions victimize and violate the rights/freedoms of others.

Think, kid. Think.

I think abortion violates rights/freedom of baby others.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

But how many people choose to ignore God and never actually seek to ask Him directly for directions, wisdom, answers, etc.? Because they don’t want to hear from God. It appears that most people (and I include myself) often, if not all the time do not want to know what God thinks because we want to do our own thing. How often is God blamed or accused of letting all the bad things happen and yet never even acknowledged or thanked for the good things?

That is your faith. Not mine. And some Christians do it differently than you.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I think abortion violates rights/freedom of baby others.

An embryo is not a baby.

 

[InChrist]

That is your faith. Not mine. And some Christians do it differently than you.

Yes, and I do respect the fact that there are many differences among people.

 

[Father Heathen]

But how many people choose to ignore God and never actually seek to ask Him directly for directions, wisdom, answers, etc.? Because they don’t want to hear from God. It appears that most people (and I include myself) often, if not all the time do not want to know what God thinks because we want to do our own thing. How often is God blamed or accused of letting all the bad things happen and yet never even acknowledged or thanked for the good things?

Again you attempt to shoehorn things within the context of your religion, which is nonsensical to those outside it.

 

[InChrist]

An embryo is not a baby.

Well, if abortion involves killing and removing little legs, arms, and all the human body parts, then it’s a baby in my perspective.

 

[InChrist]

Again you attempt to shoehorn things within the context of your religion, which is nonsensical to those outside it.

I was responding to another poster who referenced God. How else should I respond but from my own faith perspective?
I do realize it’s nonsensical and non- understandable to non-believers, but I can only share my perspective.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Well, if abortion involves killing and removing and removing little legs, arms, and all the human body parts, then it’s a baby in my perspective.

Well, that is only in the later part of the pregnancy. Learn some basics.
Do you see that here in all cases? And there is more.
The Blog Fodder: Human Fetal Development - Part 2

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I think abortion violates rights/freedom of baby others.

I'd love to see you cuddling up to a 12 week old fetus. It's about 2.5 inches from crown to rump, and weighs about half an ounce.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I was responding to another poster who referenced God. How else should I respond but from my own faith perspective?
I do realize it’s nonsensical and non- understandable to non-believers, but I can only share my perspective.

Or even other believers.

 

[Father Heathen]

A casino and hookers in the neighborhood guarantees crime and corruption.

Only when it's 'underground'. Having it Licenced and regulated makes it safer. Again you can't be pro-freedom if you want to control what consenting adults do with their own money or what goes on within the privacy of their own bedroom.

Just be honest; you prefer theocracy over freedom.

 

[InChrist]

I'd love to see you cuddling up to a 12 week old fetus. It's about 2.5 inches from crown to rump, and weighs about half an ounce.

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You once were just that size and looked just like that tiny, precisely formed human. Anyone and everyone you know, love and value was, also. All of us were.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Let's suppose, for the sake of argument, that in late June the decision of SCOTUS on abortion is delivered, and it is substantially the same as the leaked document penned by Justice Alito. (Presumably including the arguments based on 400 year old jurists who just happened to believe in witches empowering evil spirits in the world). What will they aim for next?
I believe that the religious right thinks itself "on a roll," and that if you are not a heterosexual, cis-gender God-fearer, they are coming for you. So far as I can tell, they have never been shy about making this intention perfectly clear, even though many weren't paying attention.
Thinks like same-sex marriage, the right to make love to the consenting individual of your choice, the right not to have to "join us in prayer," and many more, I believe, will all soon be under threat, because the Religious Right is now smelling blood, and it is hugely energizing for them.

Whatever ' energizes ' them will soon become their downfall.
Surprisingly the political powers in charge will turn on troublesome religion.
With a bad economy they could even choose to go after the wealth many religions have amassed.
Could even prove to be easy taking through the international banking system.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

......Just be honest; you prefer theocracy over freedom.

I wonder what form of theocracy you have in mind.
The modern-day definition of theocracy is: clergy rule or rule by clergy class.
That is Not the Bible's definition of theocracy.
Jesus is King of God's Kingdom and head of the Christian congregation. (the genuine 'wheat' Christians)
Absolute freedom does Not bring Peace but 'relative freedom' within the teachings of Christ brings freedom from fear, freedom from war, freedom from sin and death - 1 Corinthians 15:24-26