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Is the world really any more evil?

justbehappy

Active Member
I find that people think that the world is becoming increasingly more and more evil, but I don't find this is so.

Let's take it back way way long ago to the Egyptians. They thought that if you were in the poor caste you were no more important than dust. Whatever situation you were born into, no matter what you tried to do about it, depended how respected you'd be in your life. And if you tried to change this, you were outcast! They had no mercy for anyone that had less than them. This thinking continued for the longest time, even up to 100 years ago! (Though not AS extreme)
In biblical times if you were diseased or disabled, you were banned from normal society and looked at as wicked and disgusting. No mercy from anyone born different than you apparently!
For an extremely long time in history, if you questioned authority or the main religion of wherever you lived - you were immediately put to death! The poor lived miserably and the Kings and Queens soaked themselves up in luxury and all of the money that could get their hands out - few if any truly cared about their countries.
What about slavery? I would argue that's one of the cruelest acts in human history - and how they tried to justify it for so long.
Even when new land was being acquired, people would unrelentingly wipe out any race in their path.
Have we forgotten about the Holocaust even?

I honestly think that the reason our world seems so bad is simply because the media. It simply highlights everthing - even the most unimportant details of our lives. ESPECIALLY bad things that happen - those are in the media the most. There have always been evil people and evil things in the world, but what most people consider immoral has changed over time. I don't see today's world as any worse than earlier times, though.
What do you all think?
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
I find that people think that the world is becoming increasingly more and more evil, but I don't find this is so.

Let's take it back way way long ago to the Egyptians. They thought that if you were in the poor caste you were no more important than dust. Whatever situation you were born into, no matter what you tried to do about it, depended how respected you'd be in your life. And if you tried to change this, you were outcast! They had no mercy for anyone that had less than them. This thinking continued for the longest time, even up to 100 years ago! (Though not AS extreme)
In biblical times if you were diseased or disabled, you were banned from normal society and looked at as wicked and disgusting. No mercy from anyone born different than you apparently!
For an extremely long time in history, if you questioned authority or the main religion of wherever you lived - you were immediately put to death! The poor lived miserably and the Kings and Queens soaked themselves up in luxury and all of the money that could get their hands out - few if any truly cared about their countries.
What about slavery? I would argue that's one of the cruelest acts in human history - and how they tried to justify it for so long.
Even when new land was being acquired, people would unrelentingly wipe out any race in their path.
Have we forgotten about the Holocaust even?

I honestly think that the reason our world seems so bad is simply because the media. It simply highlights everthing - even the most unimportant details of our lives. ESPECIALLY bad things that happen - those are in the media the most. There have always been evil people and evil things in the world, but what most people consider immoral has changed over time. I don't see today's world as any worse than earlier times, though.
What do you all think?

i think people in Afghanistan, Rwanda, N.Korea and Haiti, would disagree...
it's the bravery of being out of range...
 

Boethiah

Penguin
There are places in the world where things are good, there are places in the world where things are meh, and there are places in the world where things are bad. Plus all of the in-betweens. I don't think we are necessarily more evil, we are just slightly less ignorant with what is going on. (from an American stand point)
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Some places get better and others worse. There is always going to be those who are suffering and others who are happy. That's the nature of this world- and everything is temporary.
 

luvuyesua

Member
The problems have always existed, it seems to have enhanced in many forms. more mothers hate their kids and more kids hate their mothers, the main cities all over the world are growing in kaos, murders are being committed for less and less merrited reasons, deseases are growing to more an more different kinds, iniquity is on a rise, things that were a shock in neighborhood happenings, its becoming more and more a normal way, more and more people are becoming drug addicts illegal and prescription,( alters thinking process) some say that it is because their is more people, well more people are being raised that way or what ever the reason may be.
I see a difference.

may you be blessed
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
The problems have always existed, it seems to have enhanced in many forms. more mothers hate their kids and more kids hate their mothers, the main cities all over the world are growing in kaos, murders are being committed for less and less merrited reasons, deseases are growing to more an more different kinds, iniquity is on a rise, things that were a shock in neighborhood happenings, its becoming more and more a normal way, more and more people are becoming drug addicts illegal and prescription,( alters thinking process) some say that it is because their is more people, well more people are being raised that way or what ever the reason may be.
I see a difference.

may you be blessed

Compared to when and where?
I think the world goes in cycles. I think the Middle Ages were far worse for everyone.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend justbehappy,

The Universe is always in a balance so it going about its own business without stopping.
Good & bad are always in equal proportion like a tree grows both ways if one sees the plant growing upwards be known that its roots to are growing inwards as deeply. Similarly if mankind develops internet for its benefit another group is depriving mankind of the same benefit through cyber crimes.
After every night there is a day and vice-versa.
Rest are all perception and all perceptions are illusions and not the real TRUTH!

Love & rgds
 

it's_sam

Freak of Nature
It's great for the rich folks in North America and Europe. It sucks for the worlds poor.
Your right us people that ARENT blind *cough* misty *cough*... ehemmm excuse me! We can see the balance your talking about. Before a couple hundred years ago every natian perty much had the same potential as the next. We made the blood of life in this world as green as the money its made of. A normal country that might offer some kind of support to their people will be swept under the rug if they cannot offer sufficent trade for the current times. Its not enough just to live your life anymore you have to give everything you can offer to someone before they show you respect, wich only fattens the figureheads wallet (corperation, ending at government). They pull it off because it consists of people giving everything they have and then forced to say "Im just doing my job". The greedy of money and power have allways been trying to supress the poor, they say to motivate us/them into doing more for themselves. Wich really means more for the rich and at the cost of yourself. Focusing on good and bad will do exactly that, perpetuate eachother. If we focus on what we need for peace, will it not be the same result?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Generally speaking, people are more enlightened, but also more troubled (more decisions to make and less to go on to support those choices) and more empowered (meaning among other things that their mistakes have more significance).

From what I hear of the typical mentality in the 1940s or even the 1950s, it is misleading to say that things are worse.
 

it's_sam

Freak of Nature
Let me ask you something. wich people in America would say as the american people "Im happy with what we offer our citizens"? How do you access what we offer our citizens? Being alive as a person of equal value? Or is it, you only get what you can pay for?
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well, for what it's worth, I'd rather live now than in any other time. Most times in history I wouldn't have been able to work on what I want to work on and would have had little or no reasonable healthcare. The quality of life would have been worse. Plus I would have had little access to information compared to what I have now.

i think people in Afghanistan, Rwanda, N.Korea and Haiti, would disagree...
it's the bravery of being out of range...
They may disagree that the world is a good place, because for them it's definitely not, but it's not as though a few hundred or a few thousand years ago there weren't places on earth that were just as bad.

The problems have always existed, it seems to have enhanced in many forms. more mothers hate their kids and more kids hate their mothers, the main cities all over the world are growing in kaos, murders are being committed for less and less merrited reasons, deseases are growing to more an more different kinds, iniquity is on a rise, things that were a shock in neighborhood happenings, its becoming more and more a normal way, more and more people are becoming drug addicts illegal and prescription,( alters thinking process) some say that it is because their is more people, well more people are being raised that way or what ever the reason may be.
I see a difference.

may you be blessed
Compared to when?

Life expectancy is longer than ever in my places of the world. Even where life expectancy is lowest, it's generally higher than it was thousands of years ago. We have numerous methods to fight diseases. I mean, think about the Bubonic plague. When it struck in Europe in the 14th century, it killed a third of the people in Europe.

And as far as inequality goes, during parts of the middle ages, there were serfs on land owned by lords, unable to be anything but peasants. And there was a lot more slavery in the world than now.

-Lyn
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
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I honestly think that the reason our world seems so bad is simply because the media. It simply highlights everthing - even the most unimportant details of our lives. ESPECIALLY bad things that happen - those are in the media the most. There have always been evil people and evil things in the world, but what most people consider immoral has changed over time. I don't see today's world as any worse than earlier times, though.
What do you all think?


Well I certainly disagree with the notion that this world we live in is not the worst of times ever in human history. Many of you it seems need to put this world we now live in under a magnifying glass, which willnot change your view of things, but improve it. Let me give a short list as to why I think things are worse now:

Serial killers on the rise. This is a distinct evil that is defintely increasing in our times.

Child molestation. Another distinct evil that is increasing more in our times than ever before.

Stealing. More people are stealing now than ever before, its a " Common thing to do." And I don't see stealing as " Being common" anywhere in human history past.

Disrespect and ignoring of our neighbors. Oh this is a growing rampant modernday problem which I do not see in our history past. People respected their neighbors back then no matter what.

The use and choice of weapondry to kill. The modernday weapons being used to kill is FAR more evil than at any time in human history. The way that weapons kill has grown more evil and sinister, their design has reflected a growing cruelness in how we look at winning a war.

The style of clothes that women wear. This is one of the greatest growing evils that I have seen in my life time. Certain women are dressing more and more provocative each passing year. I mean this is getting worse. Men don't have to buy sex magazines, all they need to do is go for a walk and you can see all the flesh you desire to see.

Language. The way we talk I think is more evil than humans have ever communicated before. What we have done to verbal communication is akin to vocal rape. The things which come out of our mouths and the way it comes out, I
think is just a down right shame, and children as young as 5 years old are doing it. This has NEVER occured in history, in my view.

I could continue this list, but you get the point.

Peace.
 
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Twig pentagram

High Priest
I find that people think that the world is becoming increasingly more and more evil, but I don't find this is so.

Let's take it back way way long ago to the Egyptians. They thought that if you were in the poor caste you were no more important than dust. Whatever situation you were born into, no matter what you tried to do about it, depended how respected you'd be in your life. And if you tried to change this, you were outcast! They had no mercy for anyone that had less than them. This thinking continued for the longest time, even up to 100 years ago! (Though not AS extreme)
In biblical times if you were diseased or disabled, you were banned from normal society and looked at as wicked and disgusting. No mercy from anyone born different than you apparently!
For an extremely long time in history, if you questioned authority or the main religion of wherever you lived - you were immediately put to death! The poor lived miserably and the Kings and Queens soaked themselves up in luxury and all of the money that could get their hands out - few if any truly cared about their countries.
What about slavery? I would argue that's one of the cruelest acts in human history - and how they tried to justify it for so long.
Even when new land was being acquired, people would unrelentingly wipe out any race in their path.
Have we forgotten about the Holocaust even?

I honestly think that the reason our world seems so bad is simply because the media. It simply highlights everthing - even the most unimportant details of our lives. ESPECIALLY bad things that happen - those are in the media the most. There have always been evil people and evil things in the world, but what most people consider immoral has changed over time. I don't see today's world as any worse than earlier times, though.
What do you all think?
Anyone that has a decent knowledge of history knows that the world is alot better now. Everytime the earth spins humans get smarter and more civilized.
 

it's_sam

Freak of Nature
Anyone that has a decent knowledge of history knows that the world is alot better now. Everytime the earth spins humans get smarter and more civilized.
I do agree alot more is added everyday and everyday old ways are turning to dust. Can you say you know without a doubt that some of those old ways might of had some truths? They survived for a long time and through many impossible situations. We are who we are today because of everything previous to the current time. Do we know that building up the stock market and the heart of greed a better thing to do then spirituality?
 
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