Is there a way in which all religions are similarly wrong?

[SalixIncendium]

Does that only apply to atheists? How about theists doing exactly that? Do you ever give them that message? I don't, because I don't consider their claims that gods exist offensive. But I also don't give that message to fellow atheists, even those who insist that gods don't exist, because why would I? Should I feel insulted?

It applies to those atheists that just pop into threads with the sole purpose of reminding everyone that gods don't exists with no other discussion promoting commentary or any modifiers expressing opinion. It applies to anyone that presents their personal views as indisputable fact.

If this thread was a theist asking in what way atheist views are wrong, and someone responded, "Err...gods exist", yes, I would give them the same message. The intent in either case is to troll those with opposing views.

Not only that, the comment crossed the line into a couple of forum rule violations.

 

[paarsurrey]

Yes, I think that is true. Every religion gives preference to belief over reason. The Bible claims, within it's own pages, to be revealed truth -- as does the Qu'ran, not to mention Baha'u'llah or the Guru Granth Sahib.

So I'll ask a question: how many human ills have been resolved or ameliorated through scriptural text, compared to how many have been resolved or ameliorated through reason, science and rational inquiry? Is religion curing people of cancer, or is it chemotherapy and surgery? Does Scripture tell you how to get to the moon, or clean up your oceans, or get the CO2 out of the air so we can keep breathing, or is it science that is doing that?

So, my own answer to myself is this: all religions, in my view, are wrong in the same way, in that they insist on belief over reason. And that will never solve the problems we face now, or will face in the future.

Is one' argument from Science or from the truthful Word of Revelation, please?
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Evangelicalhumanist said:
Yes, I think that is true. Every religion gives preference to belief over reason. The Bible claims, within it's own pages, to be revealed truth -- as does the Qu'ran, not to mention Baha'u'llah or the Guru Granth Sahib.

So I'll ask a question: how many human ills have been resolved or ameliorated through scriptural text, compared to how many have been resolved or ameliorated through reason, science and rational inquiry? Is religion curing people of cancer, or is it chemotherapy and surgery? Does Scripture tell you how to get to the moon, or clean up your oceans, or get the CO2 out of the air so we can keep breathing, or is it science that is doing that?

So, my own answer to myself is this: all religions, in my view, are wrong in the same way, in that they insist on belief over reason. And that will never solve the problems we face now, or will face in the future.

Is one' argument from Science or from the truthful Word of Revelation, please?
Regards

One could neither support one's standpoint from Science nor from the truthful Word of Revelation, please, isn't it reasonable therefore that all shades of Atheism people are similarly wrong, please? Right?

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

" Is there a way in which all religions are similarly wrong? "
" Is there a way in which all Atheism people are similarly wrong? "

Evangelicalhumanist said:
Yes, I think that is true. Every religion gives preference to belief over reason. The Bible claims, within it's own pages, to be revealed truth -- as does the Qu'ran, not to mention Baha'u'llah or the Guru Granth Sahib.

So I'll ask a question: how many human ills have been resolved or ameliorated through scriptural text, compared to how many have been resolved or ameliorated through reason, science and rational inquiry? Is religion curing people of cancer, or is it chemotherapy and surgery? Does Scripture tell you how to get to the moon, or clean up your oceans, or get the CO2 out of the air so we can keep breathing, or is it science that is doing that?

So, my own answer to myself is this: all religions, in my view, are wrong in the same way, in that they insist on belief over reason. And that will never solve the problems we face now, or will face in the future.

Is one' argument from Science or from the truthful Word of Revelation, please?
Regards

paarsurrey said :One could neither support one's standpoint from Science nor from the truthful Word of Revelation, please, isn't it reasonable therefore that all shades of Atheism people are similarly wrong, please? Right?
paarsurrey says: So Atheism people , all shades of them have no Methodology of their own to sort right from the wrong, similarly, right?

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

" Is there a way in which all religions are similarly wrong? "
" Is there a way in which all Atheism people are similarly wrong? "

Evangelicalhumanist said:
Yes, I think that is true. Every religion gives preference to belief over reason. The Bible claims, within it's own pages, to be revealed truth -- as does the Qu'ran, not to mention Baha'u'llah or the Guru Granth Sahib.

So I'll ask a question: how many human ills have been resolved or ameliorated through scriptural text, compared to how many have been resolved or ameliorated through reason, science and rational inquiry? Is religion curing people of cancer, or is it chemotherapy and surgery? Does Scripture tell you how to get to the moon, or clean up your oceans, or get the CO2 out of the air so we can keep breathing, or is it science that is doing that?

So, my own answer to myself is this: all religions, in my view, are wrong in the same way, in that they insist on belief over reason. And that will never solve the problems we face now, or will face in the future.

paarsurrey said :One could neither support one's standpoint from Science nor from the truthful Word of Revelation, please, isn't it reasonable therefore that all shades of Atheism people are similarly wrong, please? Right?
paarsurrey says: So Atheism people , all shades of them have no Methodology of their own to sort right from the wrong, similarly, right?

Regards

Anybody else, please

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

" Is there a way in which all religions are similarly wrong? "
" Is there a way in which all Atheism people are similarly wrong? "

Evangelicalhumanist said:
Yes, I think that is true. Every religion gives preference to belief over reason. The Bible claims, within it's own pages, to be revealed truth -- as does the Qu'ran, not to mention Baha'u'llah or the Guru Granth Sahib.

So I'll ask a question: how many human ills have been resolved or ameliorated through scriptural text, compared to how many have been resolved or ameliorated through reason, science and rational inquiry? Is religion curing people of cancer, or is it chemotherapy and surgery? Does Scripture tell you how to get to the moon, or clean up your oceans, or get the CO2 out of the air so we can keep breathing, or is it science that is doing that?

So, my own answer to myself is this: all religions, in my view, are wrong in the same way, in that they insist on belief over reason. And that will never solve the problems we face now, or will face in the future.

paarsurrey said :One could neither support one's standpoint from Science nor from the truthful Word of Revelation, please, isn't it reasonable therefore that all shades of Atheism people are similarly wrong, please? Right?
paarsurrey says: So Atheism people , all shades of them have no Methodology of their own to sort right from the wrong, similarly, right?
Evangelicalhumanist said: "Every religion gives preference to belief over reason."
paarsurrey says: Not so correct, my truthful religion appeals to reason as long as reason could lead humanity reasonably, please, right?:

The triliteral root ʿayn qāf lām (ع ق ل) ,meaning reason/intellect/understanding, occurs 49 times in the Quran as the form I verb ʿaqalu (عَقَلُ). The translations below are brief glosses intended as a guide to meaning. An Arabic word may have a range of meanings depending on context. For example, please :
First Verse
3:119
یٰۤاَیُّہَا الَّذِیۡنَ اٰمَنُوۡا لَا تَتَّخِذُوۡا بِطَانَۃً مِّنۡ دُوۡنِکُمۡ لَا یَاۡلُوۡنَکُمۡ خَبَالًا ؕ وَدُّوۡا مَا عَنِتُّمۡ ۚ قَدۡ بَدَتِ الۡبَغۡضَآءُ مِنۡ اَفۡوَاہِہِمۡ ۚۖ وَمَا تُخۡفِیۡ صُدُوۡرُہُمۡ اَکۡبَرُ ؕ قَدۡ بَیَّنَّا لَکُمُ الۡاٰیٰتِ اِنۡ کُنۡتُمۡ تَعۡقِلُوۡنَ ﴿۱۱۹﴾
English - Sher Ali
O ye who believe! take not others than your own people as intimate friends; they will not fail to corrupt you. They love to see you in trouble. Hatred has already shown itself through the utterances of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still. We have made clear to you Our commandments, if you will understand.

Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search

In Arabic, Chinese, English, French, German, Italian, Spanish and Urdu.

www.alislam.org

Does it help, please?
Right?

Regards