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Is western civilizations plight of the homeless a sad, glaring example of religious hypocrisy?

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Most religions admonish us to let go of our fear-driven greed and indifference to the suffering of others. And yet we do not heed this admonishment much of the time.

How is this, then, religion's fault? And not our own?

When you look at high profile people the likes of Joel Olstien, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, Pat Roberson, Joyce Meyers, and the list goes on, it's not hard to see why in respect to mainstream religion and religious where such people need to set and lead by example.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I'm more for the adage, "Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime".

Im with you on that.


Here is another adage re bullet hole adage-

It's not the cough
That carries you off.

It's the coffin
They carry you offin.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
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In the most affluent western countries, It seems that homelessness and extreme poverty grow larger. This poverty is visibly noticeable in the UK, America ,Canada and parts of central Europe.


Western countries are often melting pots of religion and spirituality. With all the different religions and spirituality movements, do you think that there lies hypocrisy that eats at the facade of those who work and engage in apathetic, indifferent professions?



With many world religions and spiritual movements such as new age, do you think that there exists a poverty of humanity that opens up difficult questions about the peaceful, humility and compassion that many religions or spiritual movements claim to advocate

Is homelessness a sad, glaring example of the modern western worlds religious hypocrisy?

Excuse unedited grammar broken sentences
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Not in my opinion. First of all possibly the main problem with homelessness is unhealthy addictions to narcotics or alcohol. This problem could be alleviated by legalizing drug use so they aren't criminalized just because they are on drugs and instead of spending billions on the "war on drugs" instead spend the money on rehabilitation for hopelessly addicted individuals so they could become useful members of society again. The problem is not with religions it's that no one wants to hire a drug addict. Also there is a stigma against homeless people. In fact no one wants to hire a homeless person period. It's even hard to get a job if you have dropped off the workforce for more than a year. If so you will find people do not want to hire you. They think you're lazy or weird. Either way they want nothing to do with you. Whether they are on drugs or not. That's why they need rehabilitation. Religions are not really to blame here. It's society and the way it views homelessness and drug addictions.

Then you have people out of prison of course. They're homeless because no one will hire them because they have a criminal record. Essentially you have hopeless people stuck on the streets with nothing to do.

Finally you will always have a few people on the streets even if you solved all problems and made rehabilitation easy. Some people like the freedom and do not like to do any mildly difficult work.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
When you look at high profile people the likes of Joel Olstien, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, Pat Roberson, Joyce Meyers, and the list goes on, it's not hard to see why in respect to mainstream religion and religious where such people need to set and lead by example.
They're only "high profile" because the media has discovered that it can use their offensiveness and controversy to ratchet up ratings. And we only focus on them because they are outliers from the norm. Yet, to hear many atheists tell it, they are the icons of mainstream religion.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
They're only "high profile" because the media has discovered that it can use their offensiveness and controversy to ratchet up ratings. And we only focus on them because they are outliers from the norm. Yet, to hear many atheists tell it, they are the icons of mainstream religion.

Really. You know that about the media.
Not a chance that they could be calling needed
attention to behaviour all too representativbe
of purveyors of ye gospel through history.

In America, the megachurch is mainstream. And, the
sorry parade of flim flam artists who con
the public is highly representative of those "churches"
of big biz bible.l

Uncomfortable facts, those. First you blame the
"media" and then point at atheists. tsk
 

PureX

Veteran Member
Really. You know that about the media.
Not a chance that they could be calling needed
attention to behaviour all too representativbe
of purveyors of ye gospel through history.
None at all. It's all about the money. The outrageousness and controversy of the extremists keep people watching, listening, reading, etc., and that means more attention to the advertisements, and more money to be made selling the ad-space.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
None at all. It's all about the money. The outrageousness and controversy of the extremists keep people watching, listening, reading, etc., and that means more attention to the advertisements, and more money to be made selling the ad-space.


Blame the media for reporting on the abuses.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
When you look at high profile people the likes of Joel Olstien, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar, Pat Roberson, Joyce Meyers, and the list goes on, it's not hard to see why in respect to mainstream religion and religious where such people need to set and lead by example.

Some of those people follow a Prosperity interpretation/theology and/or odds ideas about Free Will and God's Wills. So, besides frauds, many do see themselves as leading by example. They just disagree with the standards used to establish a good example or a bad one.
 

1robin

Christian/Baptist
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In the most affluent western countries, It seems that homelessness and extreme poverty grow larger. This poverty is visibly noticeable in the UK, America ,Canada and parts of central Europe.


Western countries are often melting pots of religion and spirituality. With all the different religions and spirituality movements, do you think that there lies hypocrisy that eats at the facade of those who work and engage in apathetic, indifferent professions?



With many world religions and spiritual movements such as new age, do you think that there exists a poverty of humanity that opens up difficult questions about the peaceful, humility and compassion that many religions or spiritual movements claim to advocate

Is homelessness a sad, glaring example of the modern western worlds religious hypocrisy?

Excuse unedited grammar broken sentences
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All societies and cultures contain homeless and destitute people within it. However in general western cultures are far more charitable. The most generous graphic on earth are western Christian conservatives. No matter where national tragedies occur western nations are usually the first on the scene with more aid relief than their counterparts. Almost all the leading charitable organizations have western Christian roots.
 
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