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Islam is not a religion of terror. Is it?

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Arabic did exist ofcourse, it was an oral language that's all.
In the 1st century? Either way, it doesn't matter since Christ referred to God as Father and Muslims don't.
The devil does not ask to feed the poor, to help the orphans. To free the slaves, to abstain from alcohol, gambling, lies, hatred, foul language, greed, injustice etc.
Islam wants to establish a global theocratic empire. Those who leave the religion are subject to the death penalty. Saying negative things about Mohammad either earns you the death penalty, exile or lashing. Eating pork, drinking alcohol, sex outside of marriage, homosexuality, etc. are punished with the death penalty, exile or lashing.

Jesus said that His Kingdom is not of this world and is focused on spiritual matters, as opposed to material/worldly matters. A Christian really isn't supposed to care about being in the majority or having worldly power to rule over others with. It is primarily internal, much like Buddhism. Islam, however, is mostly concerned with worldly matters and even your afterlife Paradise is described in terms of worldly pleasure. Your idea of Hell is brutal, materialistic and Medieval. Islam is tribal and suppresses liberty in favor of groupthink. Your beloved prophet was a pedophile and a criminal warlord who only preached tolerance while in the minority but quickly changed his tune after amassing enough followers, after which he begin a rampage. To this day, non-Muslims are viewed as unclean and are still not allowed to step foot in Mecca, whereas all are welcome in churches. Everyone is free to visit Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant churches and holy sites.

As a Gnostic Christian, that is devilish to me. The aims of Christianity and the aims of Islam are entirely opposed to each other.
 

Useless2015

Active Member
In the 1st century? Either way, it doesn't matter since Christ referred to God as Father and Muslims don't.

He referred to God as his master same as muslims. He prayed to God with his forehead touching the ground. Jesus pbuh was muslim:).

Islam wants to establish a global theocratic empire. Those who leave the religion are subject to the death penalty. Saying negative things about Mohammad either earns you the death penalty, exile or lashing.

Don't live in a society where you are not willing to abide the law.

Eating pork, drinking alcohol, sex outside of marriage, homosexuality, etc. are punished with the death penalty, exile or lashing.
Nothing wrong with having moral standards.

Jesus said that His Kingdom is not of this world and is focused on spiritual matters, as opposed to material/worldly matters. A Christian really isn't supposed to care about being in the majority or having worldly power to rule over others with. It is primarily internal, much like Buddhism.

Good for you. Its a shame people like Hitler, the Pope and Columbus didnt get to see your message when they massacred millions of people for not being Christian.


Islam, however, is mostly concerned with worldly matters and even your afterlife Paradise is described in terms of worldly pleasure. Your idea of Hell is brutal, materialistic and Medieval. Islam is tribal and suppresses liberty in favor of groupthink. Your beloved prophet was a pedophile and a criminal warlord who only preached tolerance while in the minority but quickly changed his tune after amassing enough followers, after which he begin a rampage. To this day, non-Muslims are viewed as unclean and are still not allowed to step foot in Mecca, whereas all are welcome in churches. Everyone is free to visit Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant churches and holy sites.

Talking about unclean when every non-Christian in the Bible is referred to as the spawn of satan...You are a hoot lol.
The Quran is full of verses concerning worldly matters. People who love worldy matters more than God are sinners in the Quran.



“And the life of this world is nothing but play and amusement. But far better is the house in the hereafter for those who are Al-Muttaqun (the pious). Will you not then understand?” (Quran, Al-An’aam: 32)



As a Gnostic Christian, that is devilish to me. The aims of Christianity and the aims of Islam are entirely opposed to each other.

There is no aim for Christianity, a religion founded upon heresy implemented by pagans has no goal. The only goal it had was to keep certain people in power. Now its reduced to a joke really. Even you admitted that the Bible isn't that important.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
What goals have been achieved, can you describe them. Please
Regards
America has been unable to spread democracy in Iraq has been unable to spread democracy in Afghanistan
America took out Islamic terrorism to the world
That gave him a chance to win
America is not fighting Islam
US gives protection to Muslims
They started working on their deployment in the world
Obama is a Muslim and the Good Shepherd
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Don't live in a society where you are not willing to abide the law.
he world is not in need of the laws of Islam
Best known as the humanitarian laws of the Koran laws
Code of Hammurabi was did not know the distinction between their own nationals
But the laws of Islam, claimed religious discrimination and racism
That Islam is a humanitarian disaster
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Nothing wrong with having moral standards.
What are the ethical standards in Islam
??
Is it a temporary marriage ???
Is temporary marriage in ethical standard ??
Or slaves **** ???
Or is standard robbed filial wife as he did with Mohammed Zaid wife ??
I do not know Where are the standards of morality in Islam? Is it in the legalization of the spoils?
I know that Islam does not have any moral standard in favor of
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Good for you. Its a shame people like Hitler, the Pope and Columbus didnt get to see your message when they massacred millions of people for not being Christian
This speech is an expression of the intellectual bankruptcy
Hitler did not declare a holy war in order to spread the gospel in the world
Hitler declared war even glorifies his power and his desire to restore the glories of his nation Germanic
And after he went Hitler crushed Germanic nationalism
Now, Germany is exposed to an Islamic invasion
And Germany should think carefully about the presence of Islamic
And the Pope, he did not declare holy war
The Pope and Hitler were unable to provide nest
While the Koran is a book of military teachings
And every Muslim commander uses verses of the Koran to support his position
And able to mobilize thousands of Muslims
And offer you this incident
Iraqi Kurdistan is an Iraqi province of Kurdish majority Muslim
But the leaders of the region have good relations with America
And trying to say to the world we are a civilized people
But I got the following incident
This equation has made are not true
Because it is in the Iraqi Kurdish city of Zakho
One Muslim preachers in mosques announced in his speech on Friday for the sale of alcoholic drinks markets
It is forbidden in Islam
Do you know what happened ???
Muslims came out of that mosque and spread destroy all liquor stores and also some properties Kurds and Christians spread the impact of such engagement to the Iraqi city of Dohuk
Without the leadership of the region to rectify those events have spread to fuse those advocating terrorist
So there is a permanent defect
He said Islamic teachings is the center of terrorism, it is always valid in every time and place
These teachings produce robots
Lansana not be able to free thinking
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
There is no aim for Christianity, a religion founded upon heresy implemented by pagans has no goal. The only goal it had was to keep certain people in power. Now its reduced to a joke really. Even you admitted that the Bible isn't that important
Christianity has a target
It is spread love among the people
Christianity can be summed up in two words
God is love
It is the life of Islam does not know the way
Because Islam says God is harmful and avenger and terrible
God in Islam is an enemy of man
Here's the verse of the Koran
And prepared them what you can of power by terriotes the enemy of Allah and your enemyIs Buddhist man and the man who does not believe in God is the enemy of God ??
Is the Christian enemy of God ??
God who created man was not created until it becomes an enemy ??
God created man in order to be Habibullah
This is the difference between Christianity and Islam
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
“And the life of this world is nothing but play and amusement. But far better is the house in the hereafter for those who are Al-Muttaqun (the pious). Will you not then understand?” (Quran, Al-An’aam: 32)
You make me really admire the way you think
Life of the world play
Well what is the concept of other life in Islam ??
Anhahiah full of sex and drinking alcohol
Do you know the Islamic paradise
More trader name among Muslims about the wives of paradise is the nymphs, where Cefhn Koran that they Hur was appointed as stated in the four verses in the Koran: in the smoke 54: 44 "and Zojnahm seas eye" and phase 20:52 "and Zojnahm seas eye" and is located 22: 56-23 "and Hur eye. Like unto preserved pearls "and Rahman 72:55" Hur booths in tents
Quran Noahid nymphs word "and Keb ', that is not Atdelan Noahdha, Balihurh Nahed like virgins, which increases the fun and orgasmic. Koran also says in the description of the wives of Paradise, saying: "they are like rubies and coral" (Rahman, 58: 55). About
Lee upon him in saying: "I am Onconahn create a" he said, "are the elderly minimum Oncohn God's new creation whenever Otahn their husbands and Jdohn virgins. And when I heard Aisha that she said, and Aodjaah! 'Said the Prophet, peace be upon him: there is no pain." And Abu Sa'eed said: The Prophet, peace be upon him said: "The people of Paradise whenever collectors wives Aden virgins." Ibn Abbas said: "A man of the people of Paradise to embrace the nymph seventy years, not Imlha not dictated. Whenever Otaha and found her a virgin, and whenever he returned to returned to his desire, intercourse with her whilst strongly seventy men, do not have them to me, comes from the non-me of it, neither of them." There is no Single in paradise, as Al-Bukhari narrated from the Prophet Mohammed, but sex without interruption for all the subjects, and this is exactly what came in the enacted 55: 36 "The owners of Paradise today in filling Vakeon" ie, they are happy enjoying the defloration firstborn, as most commentators said
Koran did not mention the share of each man nymphs of paradise, but their number was mentioned in the modern
t made the difference between the life of a Muslim on the ground between his life and in the Commission Islam
Life of the world to play and fun
But the afterlife constant sex without interruption
The rivers of the heavenly wine
And the young men are serving
He described the breasts recipes nymphs heavenly places
Greetings
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
He referred to God as his master same as muslims. He prayed to God with his forehead touching the ground. Jesus pbuh was muslim:).
He did not refer to God as "master" and I don't recall any verses about Him praying with His head to the ground. He referred to God as Father, because God is literally His Father as well as being the Father of all. He was not a Muslim. You're just repeating Muslim propaganda that only the severely ignorant fall for.
Don't live in a society where you are not willing to abide the law.
The correct response is not to base the laws of a society on religion - any religion - and to support secularism.

Nothing wrong with having moral standards.
You are hopeless if you think those actions have anything to do with "morality". Well, I guess they do when you are demented and deranged.
Good for you. Its a shame people like Hitler, the Pope and Columbus didnt get to see your message when they massacred millions of people for not being Christian.
Hitler wasn't a Christian and the Nazis didn't kill people for religious reasons. They also persecuted Christians and murdered them. Do you know who Sophie Scholl, St. Maximilian Kolbe and St. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross (Edith Stein) are? However, the Nazis got along quite well with Muslims and many Muslims still have a liking for Hitler. Yes, there have been bad Popes who did terrible things and I renounce them. Columbus' misdeeds don't have much to do with religion, either, and he was a horrible person. You are really desperate, aren't you?
Talking about unclean when every non-Christian in the Bible is referred to as the spawn of satan...You are a hoot lol.
Chapter and verse?
The Quran is full of verses concerning worldly matters. People who love worldy matters more than God are sinners in the Quran.



“And the life of this world is nothing but play and amusement. But far better is the house in the hereafter for those who are Al-Muttaqun (the pious). Will you not then understand?” (Quran, Al-An’aam: 32)
Then explain why Islam wants a worldly Islamic empire.
There is no aim for Christianity, a religion founded upon heresy implemented by pagans has no goal. The only goal it had was to keep certain people in power. Now its reduced to a joke really. Even you admitted that the Bible isn't that important.
Heresy? Wtf are you even rambling about? Your religion's founders basically plagiarized Christ from the Christian religion and heavily edited His biography and character to fit their own heresy, and then made Him subordinate to your lunatic, pedophile warlord "prophet" who was probably speaking to demons if he was in contact with any incorporeal beings at all. It's Islam that grew out of heresies, not the only way around.

I didn't say the Bible wasn't important. I just don't worship a book as an idol like you do.
 
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Useless2015

Active Member
He did not refer to God as "master" and I don't recall any verses about Him praying with His head to the ground. He referred to God as Father, because God is literally His Father as well as being the Father of all. He was not a Muslim. You're just repeating Muslim propaganda that only the severely ignorant fall for.

"And he (Jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." - New Testament (Matthew 26:39)

You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I,'" (John 14:28).









The correct response is not to base the laws of a society on religion - any religion - and to support secularism.

What if other people have different ideas?


You are hopeless if you think those actions have anything to do with "morality". Well, I guess they do when you are demented and deranged.

That's your opinion and i have mine. I also think its deranged to support criminals, pedophilia, homosexuality.

Hitler wasn't a Christian and the Nazis didn't kill people for religious reasons. They also persecuted Christians and murdered them. Do you know who Sophie Scholl, St. Maximilian Kolbe and St. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross (Edith Stein) are? However, the Nazis got along quite well with Muslims and many Muslims still have a liking for Hitler. Yes, there have been bad Popes who did terrible things and I renounce them. Columbus' misdeeds don't have much to do with religion, either, and he was a horrible person. You are really desperate, aren't you?

They probably got the inspiriation to commit these crimes from the bible. It had everything to do with religion.

Chapter and verse?

This is how Jesus talked to the Jews who denied him.


"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?" (Matthew 23:33)


Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


Then explain why Islam wants a worldly Islamic empire.

The earth belongs to God and there should be no place for sinful behaviour. Its not about having an empire.

Heresy? Wtf are you even rambling about? Your religion's founders basically plagiarized Christ from the Christian religion and heavily edited His biography and character to fit their own heresy, and then made Him subordinate to your lunatic, pedophile warlord "prophet" who was probably speaking to demons if he was in contact with any incorporeal beings at all. It's Islam that grew out of heresies, not the only way around.

I didn't say the Bible wasn't important. I just don't worship a book as an idol like you do.

Face it. Christianity is a joke and Islaam is taken seriously..:)
 

gnostic

The Lost One
The earth belongs to God and there should be no place for sinful behaviour. Its not about having an empire.
With Muhammad, it was always about power. And he used fanaticism of his followers to get such power, not just religiously as a prophet of a religion; powers through political and military manoeuvrings, and power through wealth.

Islam wouldn't have spread as it did, if Muhammad was only interested in religion. In Medina, he sought politics and wars for gains, in both powers and wealth.

In 623 and 624, he gained prestige through raiding and looting merchant caravans. But he didn't stop there. With each successful raids, he had people sold who work with merchants as slaves.

There were no taking one-fifth here, in which he supposed stated that it is part of rule of the Qur'an, concerning spoils of wars. And that not the only time, he ignored his own rule about one-fifth of the spoils.

The more followers he gained, the more wealth he needs to acquire, to feed them and armed them with weapons. And one of the ways to acquire more money is through slave trade.

When the Banu Qaynupa opposed him in 624, he branded them as traitors and wanted them all executed. But one of the chieftains persuaded him to spare them, but he had Muslims to take everything that belonged to the Qaynupa. Homes, businesses, gold and silvers, were all forfeit to fuel his religion and ever-growing numbers of followers.

Again he ignored the one-fifth rule.

Then when he had receive the final surrender from the Banu Qurayza, he would only spare men who converted Islam, and have all the women and children sold into slavery. That another sign that he conveniently ignored the one-fifth spoil rule, and used the slave trade to arm his ever-growing army.

If Muhammad wasn't interested in building empire, then why did Muhammad, after the surrender of Mecca, go from town to town, with a large army, demanding each one to accept his religion...or the veiled menacing "or else".

After his death, Islam would not have spread so far and so fast, if his armies didn't go out to take Syria, Persia and Egypt during 7th century.

Anyone would have to be utterly blind, if they think Muslims, past and present, are not interested in building territorial empire, with Islam as the centrepiece.
 
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gnostic

The Lost One
Face it. Christianity is a joke and Islaam is taken seriously..:)
I actually don't take either religions too seriously.

Sure, they both now have existed for centuries, and they are here to stay.

But the bible and the Qur'an, while they are interesting readings, they both have myths and superstitions, which some Christians and most Muslims take as literal truth, just showed they they can't be taken too seriously.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
"And he (Jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." - New Testament (Matthew 26:39)
Oh, that was during the Agony in the Garden.

You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I,'" (John 14:28).
I'm not seeing "master" anywhere there.
What if other people have different ideas?
Then go live on a deserted island with your fellow fanatical theocrats to create your own idea of an Islamic utopia and leave the rest of us alone.
That's your opinion and i have mine. I also think its deranged to support criminals, pedophilia, homosexuality.
You adore Muhammad, the criminal pedophile.
They probably got the inspiriation to commit these crimes from the bible. It had everything to do with religion.
Lol, you are just being very stupid and you're also shooting yourself in the foot. Aren't Muslims supposed to respect the Bible, since a lot of the Qur'an is a rip-off of the Bible in the first place? You know, those "nasty" things in the Old Testament that God is said to have had the Israelites carry out and the killings that God supposedly did? Your religion believes that He did those things.

You're not very good at logic, are you?
This is how Jesus talked to the Jews who denied him.


"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?" (Matthew 23:33)


Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
He was referring to the Pharisee leaders, who He viewed as being self-righteous hypocrites that were oppressing and misleading the people as well as going against what God wanted. He wasn't talking about non-believers in general. Context helps a bit, you know.
The earth belongs to God and there should be no place for sinful behaviour. Its not about having an empire.
The Caliphate is an empire and you are basically admitting that Islam is supposed to conquer the world for your deity. Do you even realize what you are saying? You are a fanatic and you sound quite deranged. You sound like a typical jihadist who is becoming more and more radicalized and who will eventually carry out an attack. I fear for anyone who might be around you and hope that maybe you will be stopped. Your mentality is frightening and dangerous.
Face it. Christianity is a joke and Islaam is taken seriously..:)
The only thing about Islam that's being taken seriously is the body count it's racking up and the threat to civilization and humanity it poses.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Hitler wasn't a Christian and the Nazis didn't kill people for religious reasons. They also persecuted Christians and murdered them. Do you know who Sophie Scholl, St. Maximilian Kolbe and St. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross (Edith Stein) are? However, the Nazis got along quite well with Muslims and many Muslims still have a liking for Hitler. Yes, there have been bad Popes who did terrible things and I renounce them. Columbus' misdeeds don't have much to do with religion, either, and he was a horrible person. You are really desperate, aren't you?

Yes, this is true
Hitler one scholars and scientists met with the Palestinians and called Husseini
There have been agreements with the support of Germany in exchange for supporting Hitler to Muslims and Arabs in the extermination of the Jews
There was agreement between the Iraqis and Hitler
They Baghdad Agreement
Muslims have met with Hitler and was supporting him
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Heresy? Wtf are you even rambling about? Your religion's founders basically plagiarized Christ from the Christian religion and heavily edited His biography and character to fit their own heresy, and then made Him subordinate to your lunatic, pedophile warlord "prophet" who was probably speaking to demons if he was in contact with any incorporeal beings at all. It's Islam that grew out of heresies, not the only way around.

I didn't say the Bible wasn't important. I just don't worship a book as an idol like you
Worship the black stone in Mecca
Believe that the visit Mecca and access to the Black Stone and kisses that stone forgive them their sins
He wondrous and strange religion
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I actually don't take either religions too seriously.

Sure, they both now have existed for centuries, and they are here to stay.

But the bible and the Qur'an, while they are interesting readings, they both have myths and superstitions, which some Christians and most Muslims take as literal truth, just showed they they can't be taken too seriously
Christianity is a personal relationship between God and man
Christianity is an effective way to know God
It is in the most important qualities of love
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
The Caliphate is an empire and you are basically admitting that Islam is supposed to conquer the world for your deity. Do you even realize what you are saying? You are a fanatic and you sound quite deranged. You sound like a typical jihadist who is becoming more and more radicalized and who will eventually carry out an attack. I fear for anyone who might be around you and hope that maybe you will be stopped. Your mentality is frightening and dangerous.
It offers Islam as
Yes he believes in the Koran
For that seeks to be the law of the Koran in all the world
He's a real Muslim, my friend
 
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